bad day for my 200x!

[vartiak15]

ok we went riding on my pond and then on the trails then we were going to go to a friends house taht lived about 15min away. well as soon as we got on the road i was in about 4th gear and giving it alot of gas then all of a sudden it died. so i pulled in clutch and then let off so it started again. )like being pull started i guess) and then i went to give it gas it died and a big puff of whitish blue smoke came out. and i cant get it started. and there isnt alot of compression. did i blow a ring? or is it somthing with my valves. the motor doesnt even have 2hrs. on it scince rebuild. its a 12.1 piston and im not getting alot of comresssion. im going to pull the motor tomarrow after i fix my sled. and tear it apart this weekend. i hope it is just a ring on the piston. i replaced alot of stuff but cam, valves. and valve springs. i also didnt adjust my valves because it runs fine. well, did. some one help me out here.

[smokinp]

are you running high octane fuel?

[83185s]

sounded like a ring to me

[TimSr]

sounded like a ring to me

Could you please explain how you were able to arrive at that conclusion from the information given? Im always interested in learning something new.

[vartiak15]

well bad compression has to be the valves or the rings right tim? and im not running high octane gas.

[83185s]

i came to the conclusion because u lost a lot of compression and u said it suddenly blew out a bunch of whitish blue smoke came out..blue = oil and white also = oil or to much air.. which means u blew a ring and the air was being sucked into the head from the bottom end...i think...im not the smartest one here but that sounds more logical than anything else if u hadnt broke in the motor yet

[TimSr]

well bad compression has to be the valves or the rings right tim? and im not running high octane gas.

Yes, or a seizure or hole in the piston, but there is no way anybody can tell you without opening it up and inspecting it. Ive never heard of a ring "blowing". When they break is normally from another problem, and they usually do lots of damage, but more often they get stuck compressed in the piston grooves from a meltdown or seizure.

[TimSr]

i came to the conclusion because u lost a lot of compression and u said it suddenly blew out a bunch of whitish blue smoke came out..blue = oil and white also = oil or to much air.. which means u blew a ring and the air was being sucked into the head from the bottom end...i think...im not the smartest one here but that sounds more logical than anything else if u hadnt broke in the motor yet

What is it that makes you believe it that its not a valve?

[vartiak15]

what would be wrong with the valve? sticking or what? ill take it apart this weekend.

[bigredhead]

With any luck nothing got in the tranny..... for your sake i hope so !!!

[kilabeez0]

12:1 piston and not your not running high octane?????????? did u really build that and then run 87 gas thru that thing??????????????

[vartiak15]

lol. thats what i say but my dad says it will run fine just not at its top potential(sp). so it will work and run but not as fast as possible. ive got some octane boost. mabye ill throw a lil of that in it i ever get it running. that didnt cause the problem tho. well i dont see how it could.

[Dammit!]

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...889#post184889

[83185s]

i dunno tim sr. i just kinda did..im not the smartest one alive and i dont always know what im talking about but thats just what i believe it is..(not trying to be a smart ass)

[bigredhead]

have you removed your spark plug to inspect how it was running ? rich lean .....