It cranks, Now a new question?????? 250es

[boogie5184]

Good news my 1985 bigred 250es fires!!!! Yeee haa. now I have another problem. To get it too crank I have to choke it but once it cranks i have to keep the choke set in order for it to stay running. Also if i touch the throttle the motor instantly dies, I supose it is flooding. Does this sound as if i need to rebuild the carb.??? or does anyone have any ideas i can try?? remeber, this trike has been sitting around not running for almost a year.

[ClayW]

Man when they are cold they need to warm up. This is how I crank mine. I choke it, tap the throttle forward halfway, let off, then crank it. Then I let it run for about 2 min on choke. It idles fairly low at first, but after about 30 sec I can goose it a little and the idle will increase quite a bit. Then I just let it warm up like I said for 2min minimum. I dont like a cold motor getting reved up. Thats why I let it warm up. Plus it runs better when you first take off. Try that out and let us know. I dont have to choke it near as long when its warm out. The early 85s are a little more cold natured that the late 85s, 86s, & 87. Mine is a 87. Honda changed something with the carb I think. At least that is what I have been told.

[boogie5184]

Thanks Clay, but shouldn't i at least be able to rev it up a little bit? As soon as a touch the throttle it kills the engine.

[jeswinehart]

my 85 es i hafta choke all the way and leave it that way till it starts idling up higher on it's own. i gradually back the choke off as r.p.m.'s increase untill choke is all the way off.
it is alot colder up here in michigan and it takes my bigred about 5 - 8 minutes before the choke is all the way off.
and yes ,,,, if i goose the throttle with in the firsat couple of minutes it will puke out. i'm running a 86es carb on mine to get away from the hard copld starts ( still gotta kick it though if it has sat a couple of days ).

john

[bigredhead]

Gotta let it warm up... that's normal if it's really cold.

Mine has to have full choke, and i canot touch the throttle until it's warm.. and even then. at first i have to feather it to get it revving and then i'm good to go.

A good carb clean would help for i'm sure, a clean air filter is also a good thing. and a rebuild kit is an option if the first 2 things don't work.

[Quickonstep]

i just choke and let it do its own thing till its ready to go... but.. one thing that surprizes me... when people "pump" the throttle before it starts, it doesnt realy do anything.. reasyon it doesnt, is because it just opens the throttle up and doesnt accually put fuel into it like a car... so really it just seems to waste time, but i guess its personal preference.

Jesse

[boogie5184]

Thanks guys, I will try it again tomorrow. I will probly go ahead a get a friend to rebuild my carb in a few weeks. i don't know anything about them. I figure since it has been sitting for so long it needs it anyway. To get it to crank I have to work with it for three or four minutes staying with it before it will crank and then it will only run for about minute or two before it dies down. I'll also go tomorrow and buy some oil and give it a change. God only knows when the last time it was replaced. What oil and weight do you folks recommend for this trike. Down in this part of the country it doesn't get as cold here as it does where some of you live, but it still gets pretty cold at times??

[jeswinehart]

i run synthetic in mine boogy ,,, hey - don't forget ,,,, your trike has a oil filter in it.


john

[ClayW]

Yeah, you cant touch the throttle when ones cold. I dont know if if does anything or not with me touching the throttle. I usually crank it, and it will sometimes idle rough and die. Then I push the throttle once and then hit the starter again and it will fire off every time. May not do anthing? Dont know. As I have stated before, I am not a carb man.