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Thread: hmm...maybe I should change to 300R'inNY??

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    Talking hmm...maybe I should change to 300R'inNY??

    Ok.... picked up the 300R motor tonight. Has anyone put one of these into a 81-82R frame? I got that '84 Hondaline Dealer Catalog in the mail last week. Has a table of the ATC's from '80-'84 showing what assessories are available for each. I know the 81-84R motors are basically the same, but I was amazed it didn't show the "HPO 300R Option" available for the 81 or 82R... just 83-84R. After seeing this in person, I'm concerned that maybe it was a height issue with the spark plug/extra cooling fins? or something to do with the exhaust or the different 83/84 carb? Anyhow... here's some pics of it..... has a couple issues, but will look at that more this weekend. It has great compression and the carb looks to be clean... very clean!

    Bruce
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    Bill X_R is offline Bill "The Finger" XR oo|oo Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    I don't know much about them, but looks like a killer find!


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    300r?

    What is a 300R? Is it Bored out or is it a special 300cc motor I never heard of?

    Air Cool Fins can be ground down like they do on the Harleys if its a problem. Unless you have to gind them more than 1/4" Those fins look tall though. If its a problem you might get away with it with the use of a Dremel
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    Quote Originally Posted by MEATbox[mHz]
    What is a 300R? Is it Bored out or is it a special 300cc motor I never heard of?
    It was a Hondaline assessory kit. Officially called the "HPO High Performance Kit" Basically its a larger jug/pist/head Honda developed that bolted to your 250R bottm to give you 300cc, thus it's been dubbed the "300R" kit.... I'll scan in a pic of it from the Dealer catalog when I get home... got to head off to school!

    Bruce
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
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    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
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    Looks great, can't wait to see it in the trike.
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    wow, its in awesome shape....hopefully you wont need a piston anytime soon....make sure you swap that carb out for a bigger f/s!!!
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    sweet find...it looks awesome
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    Looks good man. That is going to be one bad trike when you are done.

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    atckowalski is offline Formerly "aaakowalski" Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    Boy I sure would like to be in your will.
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    bill you got a 82 frame and such right? i know the sifter shaft is longer on 81 82 than the 84 83 b/c blazer had to change his when he put a 84 motor in a 82 frame so i thingk you will have to watch out for that and if you put whole motor in their you will be fine b/c when i had my nos 300R kit it said it would not work on a 81 motor said would fit 82 83-84 so change whole motors and you might have a chance minus the shifter shaft frist thing i would do is get it running and make sure its in good shape i also know someone that will make pistons!

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    Yeah you will have to change the shifter shaft. you should just sell that to me.lol
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    Blazer... I see you were bidding on an aircooled motor. This one ended on eBay on my Birthday for ~$107!! there was a misunderstanding with another board member. He bid on it and met the reserve, I then pm'ed him after he got outbid and asked him what he was going to snipe it at. He said $200, so I told him I'd not bid, cause I was only going to go to $160. When I got home, the other guy won it for ~107.... the other board member here didn't rebid! Luckily, the guy who won it only lived a couple hours away... I asked if I could buy it off him for what he paid and a bit more to cover his travelling/hassle. So now it's mine! Did anyone buy that one in Elkart that had the 300R kit AND the boost bottle? That was mounted on a "red" motor, so I'm assuming 81/82. I also have a spare 83R motor, and that mint FTZ racing head too.

    So what's the deal with the shifter shaft? How "too long" is it? Does it hit the frame/footpeg or what?

    Bruce
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
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    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
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    just take the one outta you 82 motor and put it in the 83 84 R motor yes it hits the frame

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    Well.... I was going to build another trike... not put it in the current 'R' I have. I basically have enough parts to build another 82R. I do have a few 83R parts, but I really want to do is have one 82R stock/OEM Other one with 300R/NASA rear axle/DG pipe/IMS tank/15 gearing etc.....

    Bruce
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
    '85 Yamahauler - Gun Rack & 'Nerf Bars'
    '85 Yamahauler - Nearly together and restored
    '83 Suzuki ALT125 - Pieces
    '89 Suzuki LT-4WD - Token Golf Cart

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    Bruce, you want me to send you both frames I have? I have that 82r with swinger and that poorly painted 83R frame. They are yours if you want them. I just need to head to the packing store and buy about 20$ worth of bubble wrap for them.............peace
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