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    Bender is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Rotary engines

    Why dont they put these in atvs. They are smaller and give off more power, less moving parts, and they seem less complicated. Has a rotery engine ever been in an atv? The only engine that i know of that uses it is the Mazda rx 8 or mx 8what ever one it is.
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    Rotarys turn a lot of RPM's but the down fall to a rotary is that they are weaker in torque than a normal piston powered vechile, rotarys also tend to make there power in the top end of the rev range
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    Single cylinder rotaty's..... is there such a thing ?

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    The Rotory engine was tried By Suzuki in the early-mid 70's on a motorcycle. Fast and powerful yes, but the sales were so terrible that it was a short lived machine. Neat i thought, but it was ahead of its time then, and now, I think it would still scare people away if it was on a quad. If you do a search its called a Suzuki RE-5. They where made from 72-76 I think, I am sure that there is someone on here that knows a little more about it than me.
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    No cylinders in a rotary motor.
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    Suzuki RE-5 Engine

    Capacity 1 x 498 cc
    Horsepower 62 bhp at 6,500 rpm (48 bhp net at 6500 rpm)
    Torque 55 lb-ft at 3,500 rpm (45 lb-ft at 3500 net)
    Brakes front disk, rear drum
    Weight 507 lb dry, 552 lb fueled oiled and watered.
    Fuel Tank 4.5 gallons US (3.7 gallon Imperial)
    Fuel consumption 31-33 mpg ("your mileage my vary")
    Top Speed 110 mph
    Quarter Mile 13.9 sec, 93 mph
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    I got a couple of the Wankle Rotary Motors here. Arctic Cat used them in the 303 Panther Snowmobiles in the early 70's. (ours was a '72) Definitely a different sounding beast!

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    Wankle?

    Ahh the Wankle. I too used to have a sled with a Wankle rotary. Is it Wankle, or Wankel? I've long since forgotten.
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    My dad had a 72 303 panther.It was OK for putzin around on and breakin atv trails but it wasnt going to win any drag race.It struggled to break 35mph. It did have a nice sound to it though,,was also very reliable. I can see them maybe being used in utility quads but thier not gonna replace the new 4 stroke sport quads anytime soon.

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    i seem to remember reading that rotary motors wear out faster than normal motors with clyinders because of their high RPMs and because the design of how it makes compression?

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    there is a rotr and section from a rx-7 in my colleges automotive technology lab room....its pretty big....another one of the big downfalls to rotary motors is that their "rings" on the apex's of the rotor would wear out at around 60.000 miles or get stuck with carbon in the "rings" slots and it would run super crappy...i believe the rx-8 has a completely redsigned style of wankle engine....i will get a pic tomorrow if i have time....
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    Back in the '70s I bought a Mazda truck from some guy who immigrated from Holland and brought his truck with him. I was told it was one of the only two of its kind in Canada, and it had a Wankel in it. Talk about a hard time getting service in a small city where they didn't even know what a rotary engine was!
    I wanted some routine maintenance done, you know, just tune 'er up, and a friend said that if I brought the beer, he could certainly make sure that engine gave me many more trouble-free miles.
    I asked him over and over again: "It's a rotary engine. You sure you know how to work on a rotary engine?" Of course he assured me he had the know-how.
    So I fetched a case of beer and rode over to his garage and we went right to work, with him lifting the hood and checking over the motor.
    "Where's the . . . are the pistons?" was his first question. :o
    That was the end of that little experiment.
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    Dam dude,you must be a die hard Floyd fan.Thats a long trip.
    That truck reminds me of the old datsun's from the late 70's before they were nissan. Hats off to Mazda for keeping the rotary engine around.

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    Ha ha. Yeah, those motors, like me, have been around for awhile.

    That trip was even longer than it seems. First I drove to Toronto to pick up my buddy, just as he and I had discussed. When I pulled up at his place he was sitting down to dinner with a date.
    "I figured when you called me about Floyd that it was only the beer talking," he said.

    Jerk.
    So I drove all the way from the east coast to Toronto then down to N.Y. and back to Toronto to visit with him for a while (and cuss him out during my entire stay) and then home again.
    I used to do that pretty regularly. Back then I was young and rich. And had a fun truck to drive with a great 8-track stereo.
    Now I'm old, broke and drive a freakin' Escort station wagon! WTH went wrong???

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