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Thread: Dual Carb from XR 200 on ATC???

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    Dual Carb from XR 200 on ATC???

    A friend of mine called yesterday, he got a killer deal on an 85 XR 200, and he swears it's DUAL CARB !!! First thing that came to mind was " Dual what ? on an XR 200 ??? yeah.. right ".

    2nd thing that came to mind after he swore it was true.. was Hey...... " I wonder if this could be adapted to an ATC ?? ".

    I imagine it has to be a 4 valve head.. and has the sought after 6 speed tranny... anyone ever check this out before ?

    found a good link on google about parts interchanging... XL. XR, atc X etc..


    http://www-staff.lboro.ac.uk/~elvpc/...ers/XR200.html
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    Goto ATVconnections and do a search on this. You will find your freind is telling the truth. You will also find from what I understand, that it wont work on the 200x. And the gain is not worth the work.
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    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    I've always know the dual setup to be more of a pain then an advantage. As a matter of fact, many builders back then would ditch the dual carb setup and convert them to a single for race applications.
    '02 Honda 416ex - A seasoned blend of 11 herbs and spices
    '04 Honda Recon - The yard machine and snow plow
    '88 Honda CR250R - Another chapter in my torrid all terrain affair

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    The dual carb setup (used on the 4 valve heads) consisted of a primary and secondary carb. Although both carbs are identical, one works all the time like a regular carb and one of them doesn't start opening until you're past 1/3 throttle. I have this same setup on my 84 XR350. They changed the XR350 to a sngle carb in 85, so the single carb must work better....

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    yeah dual carb is a pain,my friend had an xr250 and what a time tryin to sync the carbs...Hey G did ya get to ride the xr200 i wonder if they work good,i know of a 91 with a parts bike for $500...

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    I've got 2 carbs on my XR500, I kinda like it. I'm not saying it's better or anything but it's kinda cool, something different. I put a pipe on it and ported the air box. Once you get into it it's not that bad to jet, I am a little rich on the bottom end though. It has dual 32mm's on it. It's gonna take big single carb to flow that much air.

    What year XR200 had 4-valves? I know someone who has a 2002 XR200 and it's only 2 valve. Never mind on this question, the link posted above answered it. That's kinda crazy they had a RFVC 200. I wonder if could some how get that in a 86-87 200X.
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    could easily me moded to a 250 from what i read... a 250 X. 6 speed would be awsome !
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown 331
    It has dual 32mm's on it. It's gonna take big single carb to flow that much air.
    A single 44 will flow the same as two 32's. With todays tech that xr500 would do best on something like a single fcr 40.

    Some rappys are running a single kit too. FCR and Edelbrock make the kits for those.
    Last edited by OldSchoolin86; 05-17-2005 at 01:40 PM.
    '02 Honda 416ex - A seasoned blend of 11 herbs and spices
    '04 Honda Recon - The yard machine and snow plow
    '88 Honda CR250R - Another chapter in my torrid all terrain affair

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolin86
    A single 44 will flow the same as two 32's. With todays tech that xr500 would do best on something like a single fcr 40.

    Some rappys are running a single kit too. FCR and Edelbrock make the kits for those.
    I dont mean to hijack the thread but I was thinking there is no way my 2 carbs can flow as much as a 44 so I double checked and it actually has 2 28mm carbs. I think that is more like a single 37mm. That is still big for a stock carb. I would say a fcr 40 would be great on that thing! Probably get intake system off an XR600 to go to a single carb. I'm gonna leave it the way it is but it's something to think about.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    Two 28mm's are the same as 1 39mm so the 40mm would be a nice upgrade considering size and quality.

    If they were 32mm carbs and you wanted to know the single size just do a little math.
    r*r*3.14=A(area of 1), 16*16*3.14=803.84
    A*2=B(area of 2), 803.84*2=1607.68
    B/3.14=C, 1607.68/3.14=512
    the square root of C is the r of the d of the single carb, ---> 22.62mm
    r+r=d, 22.62+22.62=45.25

    So you were right, a 44mm was too small. You'd need a 45mm to replace them.
    '02 Honda 416ex - A seasoned blend of 11 herbs and spices
    '04 Honda Recon - The yard machine and snow plow
    '88 Honda CR250R - Another chapter in my torrid all terrain affair

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