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[Huffa]

Ok I am sure that almost everyone on here knows that I own an ATV repair and acc. shop. Well, I get parts through a Honda o.e.m distributor and he inlightend me on something shocking the other day. I asked him about an AirBox for an 86 200X. he said that there were 3 left in the wherhouse and they were Z coded. That means they are set to be destroyed due to inactivity and or age. Well I bought all 3 of them just to save them from this doom. There are other parts this way, I am doing my damnedest to save what I can now but I cant save them all (as that would take alot of $$) I do not know whats left but if you are seriously wanting various parts then I will check. I am not trying to make anything off of these parts I just dont want them to be destroyed when somone on here could use them. Parts are already gone that I checked on just a few months ago. If your are seriously interested in something, then reply to this thread and I will check. I Have the ability to check every Honda Wherehouse in the Country. Help me save these parts and not let them Die like our trikes did for no reason at all!!!!

Now that I think of it, we all do. The Honda dealer I go to does it all the time for me. They told me this is what is accomplished when they look for a part. Simple as keying in a search on the computer.

[Meat-BoX]

What I dont get is why Destroy the Parts, why not have a big ass E-Bay sale or a store Buyout. It makes no sence to just desrroy them. We need People to Start Building Parts for Trikes. I know only the Bigger Trikes get some goodies but it would be nice to be able to go to some website and Purchase a Headlight Guard and some Racks for my Honda 125 M Anything would be better than nothing. If people didnt do this now there wouldnt be any muscle cars around today. Where are all the Skilled Machinist to keep us alive. A soon as my welder is Up I hope to design Skid Plates and Double FootPegs with angled extenders for the 84-85 Tecate.

[Dads]

Be nice if you had a list of Z code parts.

[bigyellow4x4]

i need 250r head light "glasss " 85 how much for rear fenders and is there any color opsions with honda plastic?

[Lomax]

the parts that get destroyed (z-coded) are done so not really because of age, its done because of inactivity, to make room on the selves for new parts. Here's something else you will find interesting. Lets say you buy an axle for a 350 Honda Rancher, you find out you dont need it and your dealer takes it back. They have to have a certain amount of credit before they can send it back to honda. Well, when they finally get enough credit up, and send it back, Honda doesnt re-stock the item, they throw it away. Even though the part is brand new, they dont have the man power to put it back on the shelves and they dont want to just sell it cheap. Its easier and better (in taxes) to just toss it. Kinda shows you how much honda cares about its customers and parts availiblitiy
I will start checking on parts Monday and post my results on everything as soon as I know. Please be paitent as this is alot of parts
-William

[KayodicWeazel]

That is really really stupid. It wastes resources and valuable parts that aren't made anymore...

[Tecate performance]

GM does the same thing as far as parts ordered by customers or obsolete parts. like you said, its cheaper to do that.

is there any way someone could call their local dealers and ask what parts are z coded or considered obsolete, Lomax? i'm sure there are some parts that are classified by honda as discontinued, but sit on a shelf somewhere unnoticed.

[86250RZ]

Not if im trying to make my bike look good! would you use a freaking bread tie? And im pretty sure its not called a clamp but W/E......

Actually, it is called a clamp. A brake hose clamp to be exact.

[RideRed250R]

All throw down all the money i can for 250R parts 85-86
adam

[walker]

If you can I would like to know if there are any z-coded 85 250es rear fenders or brake cables.

[Lomax]

Ok here's what I have found out as of right now. If you do not see a part that you asked about listed, then please ask again and I will check here are the following parts

1987 ATC 200X
Dash-Availible 16 bucks + ship
Key switch-Availible 30 bucks + ship
Left HandleBar Switch- Availible 80 Bucks + ship

1984 ATC 250R
Left HandleBar Switch-GONE
Swingarm Bolt-GONE
Chain Buffer-GONE
Caliper-GONE
Master cylinder-GONE
Resivior-GONE
Hose-GONE
Rear Taillight Assembly-Availible 50 bucks + ship
Footpegs-GONE

1986 ATC 250R
Left Side Case-GONE
Rear Shock-GONE

1985 ATC 350X
Wiring Harness-GONE

1986 ATC 350X
Left HandleBar Switch-GONE

1983 ATC 200X
Rear Caliper-GONE
Left Handlebar switch-GONE
Kickstarter-GONE

1981 ATC 250R
AirBox Lid-GONE

1985 ATC 250SX
Left Handlebar Switch-GONE

1985 ATC 250R
Light Glass-GONE

I do need to mention that the prices that I recive from Honda are not that much of a Discount than what you get from your Dealer, After all the shipping tails into things then your best bet is probably the dealer. However I didnt started this thread to save parts, not make money........

[Lomax]

GM does the same thing as far as parts ordered by customers or obsolete parts. like you said, its cheaper to do that.

is there any way someone could call their local dealers and ask what parts are z coded or considered obsolete, Lomax? i'm sure there are some parts that are classified by honda as discontinued, but sit on a shelf somewhere unnoticed.

I am not real sure, See i can only check parts in the wherhouses, not ever dealer, just because the House doesnt have it anymore doesnt mean that there isnt one laying a dealer's shelf somewhere.......

[Dirtcrasher]

Not if im trying to make my bike look good! would you use a freaking bread tie? And im pretty sure its not called a clamp but W/E......

Are you talking about the guide that bolts to the upper fork leg?? Most R's don't have that for very long, and I believe it's gone. Or are you talking about the clamp on the lower portion of the disc that keeps the hose away from the disc??

[350x'inNY]

Actually, it is called a clamp. A brake hose clamp to be exact.

Errrrrrrrrrrr... thanks for playing... The correct term is "GUIDE, BRAKE HOSE"... I have the part numbers, but I'd have to kill you if I told you! It goes on top of the fork right?

[Chicho]

That is really really stupid. It wastes resources and valuable parts that aren't made anymore...

Yeah, it does suck for us as consumers and people in need of obsolete parts, but from Honda's POV...

Obsolescence leads to new purchases. These days manufacturers from various industries actually plan obsolescence. "They don't make 'em like they used to" and we are buying more than we ever used to. Ironic, huh? One would think that quality would factor into purchasing decisions much moreso than that.

When things break and aren't readily repairable people usually buy new. The plus side for consumers is typically lower prices (assuming all things equal and true competition), maybe a few more R&D/manufacturing jobs, and the chance to make a few $$$ selling obsolete parts for the older, more durable products. If Honda wants to sell more new ATVs they would be well served by destroying these parts... plus they save on warehouse costs. If the parts have depreciated fully, they carry a negative value due to warehouse costs and our potential "asset" becomes their actual liability.

Another factor would be low interest rates and easy financing - gotta move the new product when the market is soft. Depending upon where Honda's new product price equilibrium is, it could make good business sense to phase these parts out due to the general premise of economies of scale... and the ever escalating time-preference status of the average consumer.

Typically when goods have become completely depreciated it is partially due to the manufacturers having already ramped up their investment into production and need to see boosted new sales... at least that correlation usually holds true.

In short, it's a whole lotta BS, but the reasoning is that it may end up contributing to industry advancements and more affordable products in the future.... in some small way. The best way to fight this is to make the resulting niche market profitable enough to hold Honda's attention (a la "certified used" cars). IOW, don't buy new and pay out your @ss for old parts.