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  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Fort Worth,Texas (watauga)
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    when diplomacy fails......

    well,i went and made the attempt to do the bearing carrier swap from the `86 into the `85....and it got steadily worse as i went along...everything on the axle of the `85 was frozen with rust...i finally gave up on the rust penetrants after 2 days and since i don`t have a torch,i broke down and got out my dremel and my cut off wheels and went to town.....literally had to CUT the right side hub,axle nut,threaded insert,and brake disc collar completely off the axle....good thing i had extras off the `86 to replace them with........and found out(for those who said it would work)that the `86 bearing carrier WILL NOT FIT the `85 swingarm,as the `86 carrier is slightly larger in diameter....enough to where simply grinding some off wasn`t an option.....i WAS however,able to use the bearings,seals,and entire axle out of the `86 though,as all were in good condition....i also made use of the `86 brake caliper and mounting plate,i simply drilled a hole through the swingarm in the same spot as the stud on the `86 swingarm that keeps the mounting plate from rotating when the brakes are applied,then used the bushing off that stud on the bolt i installed.....only need to tack weld the bolt in place now and it will be a done deal....

    bad news is i found that the swingarm bolt that holds it all to the frame?.........

    frozen with rust as well......don`t know WHAT the hell i`m gonna do about getting that out when it comes time to replace those bushings........

    oh well,cross that bridge when i come to it i guess

    for those who offered advice on this,my thanks to you!

    here`s the end result:
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    Last edited by OldManDM; 05-29-2005 at 01:52 PM.

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Fort Worth,Texas (watauga)
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    here`s the `85 back in one piece and the `86 that`s being cannibalized:
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    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Fort Kent, Maine
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    2,132
    Wow, your 85 looks pretty good!

    '85 350X-The Flagship
    Speedo, Chrome HL Guard, Rubber Steps
    DG Chrome Power, 6-Pack Rack, White Bros Skidplate, 400ex Carb

    '85 250ES Big Red-Working in Style
    Many Hondaline & Aftermarket Add-ons
    '84 250R-Old School Racer Project
    Too many Accessories to List
    '82 200E Big Red-The Tractor
    Rubber Steps, Tripmeter
    '85 250SX-Rider
    Various Accessories

    '13 CBR250R & '05 CBR600F4i-Road Toys
    Yoshi Slip-Ons & Fender Eliminators

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Fort Worth,Texas (watauga)
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    112
    thanks,it seen some abuse before i got it tho...plan to make it pretty again!

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Texas
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    2,670
    Welcome!

    I live west of Ft. Worth. Nice to see another DFW area triker!



    So you did successfully swap the 86 axle into the 85 carrier.

    I need a few parts for my 85 R if you have any extra to sell.
    1986 Tecate
    1984 Tecate
    1985 Tri-Z
    1986 ATC350X
    1985 ATC250R (2)
    1985 ATC125M (2)
    1982 ATC70 - Original Owner

    175 TriMoto Frame with Pro-Tec Rear Suspension

    3-Wheelin' since '82

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Fort Worth,Texas (watauga)
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    112
    yea,i was succesful....got `er back runnin again....what parts are you lookin for...i might have somethin i can spare ya

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

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