Help On 200x Motor Troubles

[200xadam]

i think ill try n get it running n all that with that cam but i might order me a new performance one tomarow with the help of jenn (thank you soo much ** really gettin me throught this project) ive found that powroll makes a race cam for the 200x.

one of these days ill have this thing running thought lol

[haywoodjalikme]

Webcam still makes cams according to the website;

WEBCAM CAMSHAFTS

Jeff

[200xadam]

ok....ive ran throught the motor and found only the cam is wrong inside the motor but i expect that the cam would still let the motor run...i pulled the x with the tractor again and it ran exactly the same just no smoke this time...it acts like its not getting any gas...i have no idea why...unless there are some carburator problems...i just rebuilt the carbuerator too so are there any mistakes that could have been made durring that..? i need this thing to run!!

[jenndnn3]

200xAdam,

Get them jets!! I leave for a week. I expect to come back to hear that your machine is in top form. !! I know your close.

Haywood tell him he needs jets. And to stop useing that 110 jet. and the 145 jet. I told him run a very similar setup on jetting to yours.

Good luck Adam I know you can do it!

[200xadam]

ok i got a 120 and 125 jet, the 120 would kick a little bit almost like i had my throttle hooked up =(

the 120 responds a little bit and it just kinda sputters n boggs out, the 125 does the exact same thing but it dosnt respond as well or as often so im guessing im closer with the 120.

i also took the clip on the needle to the second from the bottom notch, and i turned the screw in the float bowl 2 3/4 turns and my friend adjusted my fuel screw on the outside i dont know where its at but he was messing with my carb trying to help me, my pilot jets are also at 40 so i dont know what to do its just not working man...

i have a nice blue spark so i know thats good but i was adjusting my choke when i was having it pulled around running the motor and i touched the motor and it electrocuted the **** out of me so is the electrical messed up causing me these troubles??

[haywoodjalikme]

Will do Jenn, Adam and I have been PMing each other back and forth about this.

Adam glad to here you got some different jets!

I would say a 120 and 40 with your needle clip in the middle groove( I know I told you 2nd from the bottom, but I think the 120 may be a touch big so try the middle groove)

Since you have a 40 pilot jet go about 2-1/4 turns out on the pilot screw.

This set up should be enough fuel to get the machine running.

I don't understand the "shocking" thing, that has me baffled , only thing I can think of is if you painted everything and the coil and engine aren't making enough contact with the frame and isn't grounded

The screw on the side of the carb is the idle screw, it raises the carb slide when it is screwed in....Make sure you are giving it throttle while turning this screw in or the screw will ding up the adjustment ramp on the slide.

If you can get it started by pulling or kicking, let it sit there and idle for 5 minutes and shut it off and check the plug. At least you would know if its getting enough fuel for idling.

I'm headed to the raceshop to pull the motor out of the racecar, maybe if I get home at a decent hour I'll check back on here.

Jeff

[200xadam]

ok after talking with jenn im going to run a stronger wire as a ground and adjust my valves and i should be able to start this thing.. i will also adjust the carb screw as * said haywood

[200xadam]

wait haywood, * might be on to something, ok this trike was originaly my friends and he took the frame and cut off most of the cdi mounting brackets and put a 200s motor in the frame and mounted up the s cdi, so now my coil for the 200x dosnt have the correct brackets so only one side of the coil is attatched to the frame a believe...would that cause a problem in the ground??? i have a spare frame that im waiting to sandblast and powedercoat that will be done in the next week or so with all the correct mounting brackets so i will have it connected right soon...but i wanted to get the motor broke in first..

[83185s]

another camshaft place that makes racing cams is www.megacyclecams.com ...ive heard they are pretty good but im not sure cause i dont have one...it looks liek your comin right along with this 200x...as you prolly found out..jenn is a good help woth 200x's!!

[200xadam]

yea if not for her i would have thrown this thing away already, she makes me keep faith in myself lol

[haywoodjalikme]

Adam

You could take a wire with a 'loop' connector on both ends about 4" long and connect it to the coil bolt thats mounted to the frame and run it over to the side of the coil that isn't connected to the frame and just run a bolt through it so both sides of the coil are grounded. Except I don't know if doing it that way would hurt the coil though, it shouldn't but you never know.

The only other thing I can think of is that your plug wire is cracked and the spark is jumping to the frame.

Jeff

[Pigga]

heres an idea you probley dont have the right octain fuel so its pre detonating that might have been your problem all long because i have the 12:1 on my 350x and it runs like crap with 93. for a 12:1 you should run about 2 gallons of 110 "race fuel" to every 3 gallons of 93... that might fix your problem do not use octain booster its not the same it will gunk up your motor, if your looking for good cams i bought mine off of webcams they make a BIG diference in performance and you might want to look into a bigger carburator too . webcams

[200xadam]

me and jen talked it out and figured out that im getting a double ground because my screw in my coil is bumping the frame grounding the coil with that, and my ground wire that i ran..

thast why its shocking me and thats why it wont run..

so what i was to do is take that wire off and securly mount the coil onto the metal mounts, grounding it. then if i had a spark without that extra wire i would be correctly grounded and should have a running motor....

i removed the wire and secured the coil on....got no spark, i removed what i had done and hooked the coil back up the way i had it before...now i have no spark that way either....and i have no idea what to do....

[haywoodjalikme]

O.k.

Do you have a multi-meter tester and know how to use it?

Also what year are all the electrical parts(cdi, coil..etc..) i'll give you some specs, but the cdi readings vary from the 83 model and the 84-85 models.

You or your buddy have to know how to use the multi-meter though.

Jeff

[200xadam]

my moms bf is a mechanic and pobobly has one and if he has it knows how to use it...