No Wheelies on my 185S?? HELP!

**thedeatons** · 06-20-2005, 10:11 PM

Splines appear to be fine... I just did the timing adjustment, placing the severely scratched up flywheel at the "F" mark, and matching the marks under my CDI cover. The timing was off, my rotor was pointed to the left (rear of the bike) of the other line about 1/4"-3/8". After I get my wheels powdered and my new tires on I will see if these two things helped out. The next step will be to pull of the right case cover... I think I'll check the compression tomorrow evening first though. Anyone have an NOS Coil/plugwire and other ignition parts for my 185S??? I'd love to renew the electrical system... OEM Honda only, as this is a complete restoration. Thanks, James

**thedeatons** · 06-21-2005, 11:25 PM

Okay guys,

I checked the compression this evening. I did the "One long pull" test, as described in another thread (found using the search feature), while holding the throttle wide open. 2 out of 3 got me 88-90 psi on the gauge. I'm hoping this is okay, as I have not yet found a manual. I would like to know what the gap is supposed to be between the rotor and the pickup under the CDI cover. I have feeler gauges, and am not afraid to use them! If anyone can help with that, I can get that set also. I'm hoping that between the timing and gap setting, along with the clutch adjustment it will feel like new once I get the wheels and tires on. By the way, I'm betting on the mixture being right on, as the carb internals are new, and the pipe is virtually unused, not to mention the plug is a gorgeous light tan. I love the ideas you guys are giving me, keep them coming. Once I get the gap set correctly I may try and check the fiber plates out, along with the springs. It's a good time, as the oil is drained.... Thanks so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! James

**bigredhead** · 06-21-2005, 11:38 PM

I beleive the compression should read 130 ish psi... 80 to 90 is low.

hold throttle wide open.. choke off... pull a few times...

**corndawg** · 06-21-2005, 11:57 PM

also, the faster you can turn the engine over the better, i learned that on a tractor i was working on at school, the bat was low on it and it was cranking slow and would only read about 60 psi on each cylinder, i was about to pull the head and see what was up with the valves and clylinders, thankfully my ag mech advisor gave me the idea of hooking up the bat charger and turning it over, when it was turning fast it read over 130psi, we ended up doing a 3 angle vavle grind job on the valves and seats for kicks lol.....just a thought

**thedeatons** · 06-23-2005, 05:37 PM

Okay guys,

So, do I keep pulling until the reading doesn't go any higher?? I pull once, long and quickly, from leaning over until my arm was full reach, which felt like it brought the piston up two to three times.... I'd like specific instructions if you don't mind... Throttle was wide open, and choke lever was all the way down (isn't that off??!?!?) Sorry, that seems like it's so simple, but I can't remember.... James

**bigredhead** · 06-23-2005, 08:32 PM

My tester's instructions say to put the plug tip to the wire and ground it to the head ( to protect the bike's electricals ) then use the electric start to crank it over aprox 5 compression cycles.

Since they say to use the electric start if you have it.. i would say crank it a few times like you usually do to start it with throttle wide open and choke OFF.. and take a reading.

Engine Cold or at operating temps tho i'm not sure about... if it makes a difference or not. More fun to work on a cold engine tho.

**foster** · 06-23-2005, 09:17 PM

Choke down = choke off.
This is a great thread. I'm learning a lot.

**thedeatons** · 06-23-2005, 09:50 PM

I'm learning a good bit too... does anyone have my gap answers?? I'd like to gap the rotor/pickup tonight.... Thanks!!

**thedeatons** · 06-23-2005, 10:56 PM

Hey guys,

I bought some more GN4 Honda oil tonight, and then I used this site's spectacular search engine, and found the gap setting I was looking for. The 185S started up quickly and is running great, idling better than it has in a long time! I do notice that the idle speed seems to flutter up and down, and when it flutters down a bit it seems to sputter just a smidgeon, but then picks back up... Any ideas on that? I am not sure what type of gas is in it, or octane level, or the age of the gas, but I can change that, maybe this weekend.... Any other suggestions for this problem???
I will recheck compression this weekend, if I can get an answer on whether I keep pulling on the recoil until the tester tops out at a certain psi or what?!? I'm just not sure if the gauge will just keep reading higher or will top out at the "correct" reading.
Keep the answers coming!!! THANKS, JAMES

**bigredhead** · 06-23-2005, 11:04 PM

There's a check valve on the gauge that lets pressure build with every pull... notice that the pressure does not drop on the exhause stroke !!!!!.. and you press the button to release the pressure before unscrewing it.

I say pull that puppy and get a reading as high as it will go.

**thedeatons** · 06-23-2005, 11:22 PM

Okay, I'll try that this weekend... Any ideas on the erratic idle?? I also noticed that it took a little bit, maybe ten seconds to idle back down after revving it up just a little. On a good note, I let it cool off, then pulled once, and it fired right up. NEVER BEFORE HAS IT DONE THAT AND I OWE IT TO THIS FORUM!!! Thanks again guys, only a few hiccups left... James

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