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    recoil

    Three BEEPING hours later i finally figured out how to put the darn thing into place. Good loard that was hard, with much blood shed. Trust me if you have weak hands, DO NOT try to put it back together yourself (Why would you be trikeing if you are weak?) I wanted to vent that out.



    Now to do it I:

    Put everything on the floor, Took the place it sets into and started to spin it with the coil on top of my hands holding what i have spun into it with 2 fingers, one on top one on bottom spinning the unit it soes into until it was back in place.
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    Well.. there are easy ways and hard ways to do things..... looks like you chose the hard way !!! lol......

    But.. if you got it done.. that's all that counts ! happy riding !
    Currently :

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    foster is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    I've had mine taken apart and back together so often that I can do it in my sleep at this point. But it ain't easy for sure!

    Right now, mine's a bit wonky. When I take it off the machine and play with it a bit, it works great. But as soon as I put it back on the machine, the rope barely retracts. You have to jiggle it sevearl times to make the rope go back in, and it barely does so, and only very slooooowly.
    What in the world could cause that? Any and all ideas gratefully accepted.

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    You need to wind it up.

    Take it off the bike.. pull the rope a foot or so and keep the pulley in place.. then take the rope back behind it's opening.. on the reel you'll notice a notch.. put the rope in the notch and wind it a few turns to tension it.
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    foster is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    I did that, but maybe it has to be done again.
    I think it might be a different problem.
    Usually when it needs to be wound up tighter, it retracts a certain amount and then leaves a length of rope hanging out.
    In this case, it will barely retract at all. If you give it about 30 slight tugs, it will retract slightly, like a half-inch at a time, until finally it is fully retracted.
    But I will try winding it tighter anyway. I gotta have a look in there anyway. Story of my life -- take off starter, stare at starter innards, scratch head, replace starter, jiggle rope on starter . . . .
    Someone suggested my rope is too thick. I dunno, it's the rope taht came with it when I got a new starter kit.

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    your winding is slipping.

    Either the hook ( the ends of the winding should be bent in a hook and catch on the casing of the pull start ) .. or the casing's tab are broken causing it to slip.

    You need to take the thing apart again and make sure the tabs are there.. and hooking up properly... otherwise you'll do this for ever and ever and ever...
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    foster is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    Now, that's exactly what I was thinking.
    Both hooks are intact, not broken, and the casing's tab seems ok.
    Somehow, it just ain't hookin' up properly. Probably something I'm doing, but geez I took it off and put it on again about 25,000 times. (Ok, slight exaggeration.)
    I'll check it all out again and this time I'll pay very close attention to make sure that hook is going where it is supposed to go. Honestly, I didn't pay much attention to that "little" details the previous times.
    Thanks dude.

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    if it's a new rope.. it might be streching a bit .. but i can't imagine it streching that much...

    Pull the rope thru the handle about a foot.. make a knot and try it out for a bit ( don't cut the rope.. yet tho.. ) and see if it does it again before you take it apart.
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    your rope holder thingy could not be put in proper and up to high so the spring comes up, un hooks and then is to lose to retract
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredhead
    Well.. there are easy ways and hard ways to do things..... looks like you chose the hard way !!! lol......

    But.. if you got it done.. that's all that counts ! happy riding !



    P.S..........Whats the E.Z. way?
    Confused As A Hungry Baby In A Topless Bar!!!

    '04 Honda CRF250R
    '82 Honda 200 4'sale soon
    '90 and '91 Arctic Cat Prowler 440
    '81 Kawasaki LTD 440 Belt Drive!!
    '92 Yamaha Warrior 350
    '05 DS 90

    Helmet save'd my friend's life, and mine, wear one!!!
    Trying is the first step to failure
    3ww Needs an iPhone app

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    foster is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredhead
    if it's a new rope.. it might be streching a bit .. but i can't imagine it streching that much...

    Pull the rope thru the handle about a foot.. make a knot and try it out for a bit ( don't cut the rope.. yet tho.. ) and see if it does it again before you take it apart.
    That can't be it. I only got about two feet of rope in there! (Don't even ask. Quite a story there.)
    But it doesn't really matter because the thing starts so easily.

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    foster is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    MNR, most people believe THIS is the easy way, and I think it's what Bigredhead is talking about:
    http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/showthrea...threadid=14675

    Frankly, I just coil it up tightly in my hand and push the sucker in place while praying out loud that it doesn't uncoil before I get it in properly. My arthritic hands take a kicking when I do that but there ya go.

    And it's not true that I pray out loud because it disguises the sound of my cursing when the spring uncoils before I can get it all together. Though some say it is true.

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