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Thread: Whitch front forks are better the 84 200es or the 84 200s

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    svo58 is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Whitch front forks are better the 84 200es or the 84 200s

    I want to put a 200s front end on a 84 200es big red.I have a real good 200s front end,would i gain anything by switching the front ends.The 200s forks look lighter,but would they go good on a 200es big red to lighten the front end a bit.Would it handle better or worse,what do you guys think,let me know.thanks....svo58
    84 big red 200es with speedo
    84 70cc ATC- new top end ,rear rack, head light and tail light
    85 250es big red
    85 250sx

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    I say the 200S front forks are way better. I would do it.
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    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
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    dblshockpower is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    You'll have to change your brake assembly too, then if the hub is for a different rim size??? you can see that one change can really add up, pretty soon you got yourself a Frankenstein...I have a 200es straight fork/dampers that are going on ebay bout mid July, pm me and I'll alert you when they're on. 200es dampers are the problem..no one maintained them so the spring wore through the neoprene guides inside the sliders they then became loose and let moisture in and it's a slippery slope after that..the good news is you can resote the springs and buy the shocks and guides new from Honda and don't overlook the retaining clips (2) they're usually rusted in too...any way once your rebuilt right they function just fine and your back to OEM....Good Luck!

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    The early 200S's had 9 inch rims just like the ES.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    dblshockpower is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    But the brake hub and boss aren't.

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    Well just take the whole front end off a 200S and put it on the ES. As long as you get the one with the 9 inch rim you can keep all the tires the same. I see nothing wrong with that at all. No different than people putting a 200X front end on a 250SX, quite the improvement.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    svo58 is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    I have everything for the 200s forks but the fender.I still want to know are the 200s forks better then the 200es forks,what do you's think.Let me know,thanks.....svo58
    84 big red 200es with speedo
    84 70cc ATC- new top end ,rear rack, head light and tail light
    85 250es big red
    85 250sx

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    The S forks are better than the ES forks.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    dblshockpower is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    If you still have your ES 10 years from now it will be most likely able to catch a serious bid...I'd keep it within factory spec...jmo.

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