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    200x idling problem Help!

    I,m having trouble getting my 200x to idle. I added a DG pipe and a uni-filter? Do I need to rejet and what is the stock jet, and should I go up or down. I did a plug check and it seems rich. I thougt it should be leaner if anything. My manual has not arrived yet and would like to take it out this weekend because its sunny and 60 degrees out can you believe it. I hear its snowing back east. anyway give me a hand please.
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
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    99TRX 300

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    86350X is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    It's snowing real good here in Ma. over a foot since this morning,,,,,,, You deffinantly should rejet go up a couple sizes on the main jet,,,,,, as far as idle, you need to adjust the fuel/air screw and idle screw to the right settigs,,, I don't know the specifics for your bike, but I am sure someone does
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    Dang Blazerone I am in the same boat......and the sun is out in oregon yippie.......but I cant get my dang 200x to idle either Im itchin so bad to ride... did you oil your filter? Good luck

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    Yeah, I oiled the filter, I'm a mastercylinder and getting my idle down away from being able to beat feet for the beach tommrow.
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









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    To answer your stock main jet q. According to Cylmer..Don't know your model so will give you all. 83-#110,84-85-#108,86-87-#122. Hope this helps.
    Trikes: Cagiva 200, 85? Tiger 250,(2)84 200x's , (3)86 200x's, 87 200x, (5)85 350x's, (2)86 350x's, (2)85 250r's, 86 Tecate, (3) 85 250sx's Restoring: 83 200x, 86 250sx. Too many utility trikes to list.

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    Thanks, I got it to idle right when the choke is on, but dies when I kick it down, hmmm, what next, does the jets efffect idle? Its an 83 by the way.
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









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    Well all of them effect your idle one way or another......WE are at sea level so you wanna run according to that....Did you buy the trike here in Oregon? If so your main jet SHould be ok....Sounds lean tho..with the choke scenerio...Maybe One size up on your main? you will need to look at the size that is there now and go up one from there. Have you warmed it up for 10 mins then try to adjust it?? The long skinny needle that runs to your throttle down the center of the carb ( i cannot remember the name) has 5 notches on it. You should be at center. if You are you can adjust up or down a notch to lean or richen it up.....but crap I cannot remember right now which way. (someone?) IT sounds like you are very close......I give you the long skinny fix so you can ride it at a richer level....Do not run it too much on a leaner level, Bring spark plugs preferably ngk(ok thats a personal preference)

    Last Have you checked for usual suspects airleaks and whatnots...around carb. I call these the easy checks...easy fix..

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    The pilot jet circuit runs totally independant of the main and needle. This is the ciruit that controls flow when you are not opening the throttle slide. Your main jet and needle are essentially plugged when the throttle is not opened, and have almost no effect on idle other than the bit the idle speed screw holds open the slide. Symptoms of a lean pilot are hard starting which is much worse in cold weather, but running fine other than at idle, and usally running fine with no symptoms once it reaches operating temp. These same symtoms will occur if a grain of sand or dirt plugs the pilot, which is a lot more common than the wrong pilot jet, especially if its just been apart.
    Once the throttle opens, all fuel flows through the main jet. The needle restricts flow through the main, but wide open means no needle restriction and its controlled solely by the main. This is why the main must be setup properly BEFORE messing with needle settings which restrict flow through the main, from a little off idle until wide open. The Air Screw on the outside of the carb is to be adjusted for best throttle response coming off of idle when you blip the throttle.
    Hope this helps.

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    I'm going to richen it up, Hopefully I can get out of here today and do some riding. thanks
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









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    thanks Tim I think you just nailed it for me. Cause I took it down the street and back and it ran fine to full throttle I just could no get it to idle. do i have to pull the carb to get to the pilot jet?
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









    Westcoasters check out the Florence ride....

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    Lol I was gonna say listen to Tim He mucho smarter then me......

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    My 250r is a little easer to work on, I have a 200s but only things I do to that are clean the filter and change oil. I'm hoping as soon as the x is dialed, I'll have the same luck. Hey Jen where is Turner anyway? out by Mac?
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









    Westcoasters check out the Florence ride....

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    Yep, gotta take the bowl off. The pilot jet is usually recessed in a hole, and taken out with a small screwdriver. When it comes out it looks like a little spaghetti strainer. Once you get it out, blow out the every orifice in both directions. If you dont have compressed air, carb cleaner with a spray tube works just fine.

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    Thanks again I'll post again if it works.
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









    Westcoasters check out the Florence ride....

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    Okay I have it apart, the slow jet, are you suppose to blow though the jet, I have a 40 in there now I think its clogged,
    1985 350x
    1985 350x
    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
    85 Tecate
    86 Tri Z
    85 TRI Z
    98Wolverine
    99TRX 300

    I need a 86 250r Headlight lens!!!! Hook me up!!!!









    Westcoasters check out the Florence ride....

    http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ad.php?t=42267

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