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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffa
    One easy hop up (and I'm not pertaining to anyone in particular) is if your over weight and can drop some pounds that ='s to the same thing as hopping up your motor and it's free!
    That's what I did. Lost 50 pounds last year (205 down to 155) and yes I can tell the difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffa
    I'm sure it is quite satisfying to have a "little" machine out run a bigger one but that's the motor doing it and not you. Really, anyone can twist a throttle and motor away and I have never been impressed with that aspect at all of seeing who can go the fastest or who outruns who (just not mt bag).

    What impresses me is the skilll of the rider negotiating the different obsticals that you encounter on the terrian you are riding on.

    You can hop your machine up 10, 20% or so but if you don't know how to traverse the terrian it won't do you a heck of a lot of good


    thats true, to see someone out ride someone else is very impressive to watch.

    but the feeling you get when YOU beat a bigger machine, with something that YOU built yourself. knowing that something constructed by YOU is so much better than a stock machine constructed by honda,yamaha,suzuki. ex.. thats what makes me build up a little machine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 200xadam
    thats true, to see someone out ride someone else is very impressive to watch.

    but the feeling you get when YOU beat a bigger machine, with something that YOU built yourself. knowing that something constructed by YOU is so much better than a stock machine constructed by honda,yamaha,suzuki. ex.. thats what makes me build up a little machine...
    Yes, true too. BUTTTTT....... it can work the other way too though Someone could beat (trail riding) you on a rat of a machine and then you wouldn't be so quick to tell him yours is all hopped up.

    I congradulate you on building up your motor though and keeping it reliable. I don't knock anyone what ever there into, just thougt I'd give a few of my 2 cents worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammit!
    That's what I did. Lost 50 pounds last year (205 down to 155) and yes I can tell the difference!
    I'll bet you gained a good 3-5 horsepower doing that, automaticly got a stiffer suspension for free, get better gas milage, can move around much better and don't get winded near as easy, your seat foam will last longer and have a much smaller food bill.

    Only negative is you don't get as much traction now

    Thats a hard thing to do for some and cograts to you! What was your method for weight loss? Less.........

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    Hmmm,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by Huffa

    One easy hop up (and I'm not pertaining to anyone in particular) is if your over weight and can drop some pounds that ='s to the same thing as hopping up your motor and it's free!
    Not pertaining to anyone in particular huh?!?! Some how I find that statement hard to believe. Maybe I'd be better off with a nice 85' 250 sx then HUH?

    I too am not into the whole my machine is faster thans yours kind of thing. I guess I'm just getting old for that sort of stuff. But I just don't see the purpose of sinking all that time and money into something that isn't going to last. I feel and some I'm sure with disagree that two strokes are pretty much the same way. A stock HONDA 4 stroke in my opinion is the most reliable engine ever made...Why ruin a good thing!

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    if you build it right it will still be reliable.
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    My good friend races quater midgets powered by the xr200,His motor is fully worked (well pretty much).
    The motor often needs to be rebuilt often,And sometimes they can go through 3 engines in a race day(meaning they need to put thier spare engines into the car),So it shows thatthe motors not really reliable.
    His motor puts out 29 horsepower on the dyno(max he can go is 30 becase of the rules).I had a go on it,That things got some serious power
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    [QUOTE=chrisr200x]Not pertaining to anyone in particular huh?!?! Some how I find that statement hard to believe.

    LOL I just knew you would reply to that statement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffa
    Thats a hard thing to do for some and cograts to you! What was your method for weight loss? Less.........
    I'm lucky. It was actually pretty easy for me. I bought a treadmill, started hitting that for only about 20 minutes a day maybe 3-5 times per week. Started doing stomach crunches and some mild weight lifting. The thing that gets most people is that I lost the weight eating fast food exclusively. I can't cook. Everything I eat comes in a paper bag and you order it by number.

    Seriously though, I just went online and started looking up the nutritional info on all the foods I commonly ate and looked for less fattening alternatives at the same places. Changing simple habits like getting a grilled chicken sandwich instead of a burger (roughly 400 calories versus 700), stop eating those damn french fries (my god those things are terrible for you... BUT THEY'RE SO GOOD TOO!), things like that. I order just some variety of grilled chicken sandwich at most places, don't get the combo and drink a can of diet soda with it. Subway has some good stuff too. Never been a massive beer drinker so that was never an issue. I lost 30 of the 50 pounds in the first two months. Turns out what I was doing was basically the "abs diet". There's a book about it but I didn't even know it.

    Could still stand to lose another 8 or so pounds I think. That would probably get me another .08 horsepower.

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    Geez, Dammmit good job! Unfortunatly I will sacrifice the couple of horsepower cause I just love that lager.

    Huffa just for the record... I have lost some weight (about 15 or so lbs) since I started working right after easter.

    How did this turn into a diet thread anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimSr
    There was a time when people built up a certain model in order to comply with class restrictions for competition. Ill never understand why somebody would spend $2000 on a 200X trying to make it run like a 350X when they could simply get a 350X, unless you are racing in a 250cc 4 stroke class or something that doesnt allow a 350X.

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    In all honesty, I dont understand it myself. But Adam had pegged it in a post. It is something you built, something you can be proud of. I really dont care if it truley is faster/quicker then the 350 or 400. But Dam when you beat it the feeling is wild. Then there is just the thing with sitting down, with your mind on nothing but why this doesnt work, it is a very relaxing time. But taking it out and putting it back in just gets, well boring, so you have to push the envelope a little. Like what if I added this, but balanced it with that, what will this machine produce. One guy (one of the smartest people when it comes to these) told me once I over analyze things. But What if it worked???? That is the true nature. To make it work. Then there is the riding aspect of it, like Huffa mentioned. I am truley a weak rider in comparison. My nature lies in the buildup, the riding is left to others. But, he is correct, if you can outride the other person that is quite a feeling itself, but not as strong as building it. I did buy the R, since the 350x is just a beast. I love my R, I am learning its nature, but even now I find I cant even leave that one alone. So rather then touch it, I play in something that wont kill me in costs, it is fun, and the kids will enjoy it. And when and if she does blow, oh well, find out why and concentrate on that.

    Why the 200x, well if you read it gets dumped on. How many posts do you read that I wanna build my R or 350, and all the many many many advice comes out, but someone comes out and asks how about the baby x, and they are told get an R or 350..

    It has a couple of compliants, it only has 5 speed, it breaks its kicker, it is unreliable. So I ask my self what if it is fixable? I think it is. So I go about to accomplish that. Hobby takes over.

    Plus there is the cost, but that was my other goal, how cheap can I do this? This right here is a big kick for me. I am currently stocking up for my next one.

    Mine was not to compete really just to have fun with it. My hubby wants to put it into flattracking, we shall see. But right now, I am still building it. It is like owning an old 69 muscle car.

    So the worth? well is it worth it to sand down your plastics to perfection only to have them scratched again? YES why? Because it is something you accomplished and you have that picture or memory of the perfection you acomplished.

    Well enough of the touchy girly BS...
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    Oh yeah, dammit congrats!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huffa
    What impresses me is the skilll of the rider negotiating the different obsticals that you encounter on the terrian you are riding on.

    You can hop your machine up 10, 20% or so but if you don't know how to traverse the terrian it won't do you a heck of a lot of good.
    Damn straight i had the slowest machine around but i mastered the trails, my friends on their sport machines couldnt get through the terrain half as well or fast as me..
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