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    Exclamation shifting problems, bike falling apart

    let me start by apolagising about all the posts lately. but anyways, today i went riding with a 300ex, kawasaki 650, and a quadsport 230. i got my #$% handed by me from the prarie. so i checked over the bike. turns out , i cant shift into 5th gear. i tried a ton of times, and it wont shift there. its not shifting clean, i dont know what the problem is. sometimes it wont go into 1st. whats wrong? how much do i have to fork out to fix this? thanks guys, hope i can get her back to what she was
    Last edited by monster 84r; 07-18-2005 at 01:29 PM.

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    should i just adjust something, or do i need a new shift fork?

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    Sounds like your shifting forks may be messed up. Or maybe you can fiddle with the clutch and/or the adjustment? Might have to go inside for a better look. Yes, that means splitting the cases. For a shop to do it it's probably gonna cost around $200 plus parts. Maybe someone else will chime in on this one cause I've been known to be wrong before

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    I would start with adjusting the clutch cable. Is it loose? Maybe take the clutch cover off and inspect that before you panic.

    If you have a manual and some mechanical know how I don't think it's too hard. I tried splitting the cases on my 200x to change some chewed up gears and a bent fork but I made the mistake of letting the parts sit on the workbench too long and everything got mixed up. If you keep everything in order you should be fine. I did this before I found these boards. Lots of knowledgeable folks around here to help out. Another good thing to have is a digital camera to take pics of each step of disassembly. So you have a referance to look back at. Sure wish I did that with mine!

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    anyone know whats wrong?

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    Stupid detail. but make sure your foot shift lever is not stripped.. check the 10 mm bolt that holds it to the splines.. it might not grab enough to give you a clean shift and as you go UP UP UP by 5th it just slips.

    my SX was doing this.

    IF that's the problem.. get an EMGO shifter.. aftermarket, 15 $.. it's holding up just fine so far on mine.!!
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    yeah.. 1st thing.. take a deeep breath.. and exhale.. there.. feel better ? LOL...

    So the lever is solid.. not slipping AT ALL right ?

    if you put the bike in gear and pull the clutch ( with engine off ).. can you push it without the rear wheels locking up ?
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    See.. now that sucker should coast easy as pie..... somethin's wrong.

    you say " when i push it back " .. well how bout when you push it forward ?

    Changed the oil recently ? have you taken anything apart for any reason since you've had problems or before issues started ?

    I'm guessing.. i repeat " GUESSING " clutch or tranny.
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    havent split the cases or anything, its hard to push foreward or backward but it goes. i just changed the gear oil, but it was hard to push w the clutch in ever since i got it. no issues, the chain slipped off once and busted off 3 teeth from the front sprocket, but other than that , no accidednts.

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    Play in the rear end at all ? how are the rear bearings ? and swingarm bearings.

    missing teeth from the front sproket will destroy your chain... gotta look after that thing !
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
    --

    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    What oil did you put in it ?
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
    --

    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    i know, i have a 13tooth on now, but the chain is waaaaaaaayyyyyyy too loose. but even back when it was perfect it was hard to push. bearings are good,

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    i put in.... coastal 85w 140 and topped it off with 80w 90. its generic pep boys crap. used to run the honda stuff but i cant afford it anymore.

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    You mixed them ?
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

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    just a little, but yes

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