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Thread: shifting problems, bike falling apart

  1. #31
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    Not to sound like a wise ass but I just want to make sure that you know the shift pattern is 1 down and 4 up. Maybe you are getting fifth and dont know it? The aircoolers were know for eating second and third usually.

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  2. #32
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    Jul 2005
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    haha no its ok thats what i thought in the begining , but i know for a fact it wont shift to 5th, ive tried a million times, and counted the gears, only get to 4th. i only hit 57 yesterday, and i knew something was up.

  3. #33
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    manuals can be found on ebay and clymer have there own website. If you don't have the cash to take it to a shop have dad or an uncle or neighbor help you. Have to learn sometime right! your not going to figure it out by sitting behind the computer. get your digital camera and your gaskets first. when your stuck ask questions everyone is here to help! Also fix that darn chain! don't want to do this work then have to do it all over again cause you threw your chain and split a engine case.

  4. #34
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    ok i took the side cover peices off, or at least the one over the flywheel. it had some surface rust which makes me wonder if it had been submerged. ill take off the other cover and check stuff out tomorrow, and take pics.

  5. #35
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    you didnt fill up the oil to the top of the filler--did you? also drain the oil, if it is silver or has metal shavings in it you have major problems...
    1985 Tri-Z-

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    Just hit the Freakin Gas and Hold on!!!!!

  6. #36
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    I would change the tranny oil and replace it with a low weight tranny oil such as dumonde tech racing tranny oil or maxima 80 wt. I would install a magnetic drain plug if you don't have one. I would purchase a new clutch and install it. (hopefully the basket is not bad)It sounds as though all this needs to be done anyway. I would triple check that the shift lever is ok and not slipping due to being stripped. If none of that works I would take it to a good shop and have them split the cases to fing the culprit. You would have needed a new clutch anyway, at least now you can narrow it down to a bigger job. Good luck.
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  7. #37
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    do i just need new clutch plates?

  8. #38
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    Look for the lowest possible position for the drain bolt.. i don't have an R so i'm sorry i can't point it directly.

    But if you have metal flakes in your oil.. you got problems !!!!! serious ones !
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

  9. #39
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    ok, thanks

  10. #40
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    i think i found the nut , but i wouldent come off, im not sure if i found the right one. ill just do it the way i always do it by taking out the oil check screw and tipping the bike over.
    Last edited by monster 84r; 07-19-2005 at 09:40 PM.

  11. #41
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    Be careful not to strip stuff...

    Look for a bolt either on the bottom of the block ( underneath the tranny ) or one to the side that looks different from the rest.. usually a bigger one than the case bolts.

    Get a good grip on it with the METRIC sockets or good wrench (mm.. not inches .. metric ) and give it a solid pop or pull progressively hard until you either determine it won't budge and will strip. but if you see it start to strip.. STOP.

    Go to " www.partsfish.com " and register if you are not a user.. it's easy and free.

    Look up your model and make and year on there and you will be able to find the drain bolt in one of the diagrams.
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

  12. #42
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    I checked it myself and it looks like the 12mm bolt directly underneath the crancase.
    Currently :

    82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
    85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
    84 125 M - The Mini-SX not running yet. but won't be long.
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    The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !

  13. #43
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    Jul 2005
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    thanks man uve been a big help!

  14. #44
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    Jul 2005
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    i was thinking of takeing the bike in to be fixed, but i cant afford it. the local dealership charges 80$ per hour for labor !! i almost had a heart attack! so i think ill go find a parts motor and a freelance mechanic, and get 'er done. shops prices are outrageous these days.
    Last edited by monster 84r; 07-20-2005 at 01:22 AM.

  15. #45
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    Jul 2005
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    i think i need A new clutch too, when i shift and hit the gas, the bike jumps to high revs but the speed takes a few seconds to catch up. it feels like im riding an automatic, is the clutch slipping too? o i cant find the 12mm nut under the motor but im looking...
    Last edited by monster 84r; 07-20-2005 at 04:25 PM.

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