I know the swinger is different but what else was changed after 1983? Is the frame and engine at least the same?
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I know the swinger is different but what else was changed after 1983? Is the frame and engine at least the same?
At The Back Of The Pack
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i thought that everything was the same up untill 86...
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Got The Holeshot
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were there years that there was a grease fitting on the axle housing on the swinger?? cuz one of mine does and one doesnt and i was wondering if it was something someone put in there..
1983 Honda ATC 200x-shes a beater
Past Rides:
1982 ATC Big Red 200e (miss it more than i thought i would)
1985 200x rode it for about a mile
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Not sure about that but the 1983 swinger is completely different than the 84 and 85.Originally Posted by Oldshell4481
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Not so. 83,4 & 5 all share the same swingarm. In fact 83-85 share the same everything, don't they?
86 was the BIG change for sure and hardly shares anything with the others.
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83 swinger is different. It is make from round tube stock, where the 84/85 is square tube stock. There are some minor motor and carb differences, 83 had 110 main jet, 84 had 108. 83 has something different about front forks. 83 holds 209 cc of oil, 84 is 214 cc. Ignition is different too, 83 is 10 deg BTDC at idle, 84 is 5 deg. This is from a 83/84 honda factory shop manual
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82 185s - sold
83 200x (hopped up)
84 200x (stock)
84 70 (lost this one to the DMV)
85 70 (soon to have lights, a foot brake, and CDI ignition)
84 200es (parts trike) - sold
85 350X (the best)
85 350X (siezed motor, dream of a poweroll kit someday)
85 250sx (frame was trash, got parted out)
86 250sx (the tractor)
86 250sx (a nicer tractor)
86 250sx (an even nicer tractor)
87 200x (parts trike, its really rough, a dog was chewing on it for a while)
87 250es Big Red (the tank!!)
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Yep the swinger is different....the wire harness is different and the cdi box different connector.....pretty sure the rest is the same up to 85......86/87 totally different in every way possible....
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I got my info from bike bandit which has the same part# for swinger reguarding 3,4, & 5. I'll beleive you guys before them though
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Another change through the years is the shock. In 85 they went to blue shock. Now someone with both the blue and red shock x's tell me, does the red make them sit lower or am I just crazy?
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I am fairly sure that the springs are the same tension regardless of color. I dont know, there are more changes than I thought between them. Oh, the front forks on an 83-84, the bottom of the tubes is black where the 85 model is "natural".
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Isn't there something different about the footpegs too?
I might be picking up a 1983 is why I'm asking. Don't care about the cosmetic stuff though. I'm hoping I can replace the stuff they upgraded in 1984 like the swinger. As long as the frame is the same it should be good.
At The Back Of The Pack
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is there any markings on the motor to tell what year it is?? becuase my 200x is a mixture of parts, and if there are motor differences, and im looking at an 85 manual i could be making some mistakes...
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As far as the swinger goes...no problem there. I just put an 85 swinger into my 83 frame to replace my rusted out original and it fitted right in with no problems at all. One thing though. The 83 didn't use a dogbone/shock mount and the later ones all do.
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Yeah I figured I'd need the shock mount and maybe even the shock itself. Is the brake hardware and everything the same?
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Yeah, no problems with everything that I found. Chain slider bolted straight on. Brake Caliper mounts all OK. The brake line brackets go from a male set up to a female but that's just a nut to a bolt swap.
Not sure about the bottom skid plate because the swinger I got had already had them cut off so I transplanted mine off the 83 to the 85. I'm pretty sure they use the same skid plate so those brackets should be cool. Someone else may know for sure though.
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