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    who is a good mechanic? got a ???

    yep, my new boat. starts super easy, idles perfect, no funny noises, etc. but it wont rev over 2K. in Nuetral or under load, same thing.???? the original Holley carb was pretty nasty looking Had another in the garage, just put it on and same thing. WTF??? sure looks like enough gas going in there, at 2 grand, you can see it flowing. Any ideas?? not enough fuel? too much? what could cause the sputtering, and breaking up and no accelleration at 2000 RPM? Timing not advancing? ARGH!
    Its a 351 Ford with a Holley 4 barrel, vac. sec. mech fuel pump, just like a car. looks to have new plug wires and points/condenser/cap. got splitfires in it but who knows how long they been in there. What should I try next??
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    A/F screw could be getting too much fuel, kick down on the 4bbl could not be working (not likely) and take a timing light to it see what its at,is your vacume advance working? pull the vacume line off the distibutor while its running and then give it a little jam of the throttle if it gets even worse you know its workin, if its the same thats what it is, just my 0.2 cents ditch the holly carb, they SUCK to tune, spend a few hun and pick up a used edelbrock if you can, heck even a quadra jet is better than an old holly. :P
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    I can't see any carb issues that would cause that. Even if a jet would clog it would still rev up. My guess is the ignition system. Did it ever rev higher than that? Is the ignition box marine specific? If not, try out a different one. No amount of restrictions should cause it not to rev. Except ignition.
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    Start out by checking your point gap. It sounds like it is too close. Make sure it is around .017 of an inch. If it is set too close you will experience symptoms like you are explaining. After that check your timing with a light and see where you are at. Hope that helps.

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    You may have an issue with your intake/exhaust valves. You could need a re-grind possibly. How old is the boat? Is it new or new to you?
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    the former owner DID change the points and condesor, readily admitted he did not gap the points but "eyeballed it" OK, so I will set the gap and go from there. thanks.
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    My boat did the same thing.Turned out to be a plug wire.

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    gapped the points, changed plugs, still the same. WTF. wires look good, almost new. I checked if they all were in the right order, and it sure appears so. Im stumped, getting pretty mad here.
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    Sounds like all the cylinders aren't firing, or are out of order. Check your spark at each.
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    Forgive me for bein simple minded but holic have you unhooked the throttle linkage and just operated the butterflys directly at the carb? Maybe the linkage is improperly adjusted and isn't allowing it to throttle up all the way or something...

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    argh, I gapped the points wrong, did not do it with them on the high side of the lobe. I will have to try again after work (i snuck home for an hour this am!) I also talked to my mechanics, they said I could bring it down tomorrow if need be. They are good to me, but then again I do drop alot of coin with them.LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trikeaholic
    argh, I gapped the points wrong, did not do it with them on the high side of the lobe. I will have to try again after work (i snuck home for an hour this am!) I also talked to my mechanics, they said I could bring it down tomorrow if need be. They are good to me, but then again I do drop alot of coin with them.LOL
    Petronix, msd, crane and mallory make HEI kits for these distributors I belive they run $50 or so, id get away from points, there a pain in the ass.
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    I think billy has a good idea with the engine off, open the throttle lever all the way open, & make sure the throttle flapps are opening all the way up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Hall
    I think billy has a good idea with the engine off, open the throttle lever all the way open, & make sure the throttle flapps are opening all the way up.
    DUH. Well, my mechanics checked EVERYTHING there is NOTHING wrong with this motor physically. No leaks, everything checks out. I guess the next assumption is that somehow it jumped time, but now we need to open it up. I am stumped, my mechanic is stumped. everything checks out perfectly, except that we did not open up the front timing chain cover. I hate to say but I think it jumped time somehow.
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    DUH!!! Is there any chance the exhaust is plugged? You might want to hook up a timing light & rev the motor, & see if your timing is advancing then all the sudden stoping. Sure does'nt seem like it would idle perfect if it jumped time. Does it bellow any smoke when it's reving or when its held at 2000 rpm's? A holley has a vacume operated power valve, If it back-fire's back up through the carb 1 time it can blow the power valve, you can plug a hole in the base of the carb to eliminate the posabilty of that happening. If the power valve is bad it will run rich as hell, & blow a lot of black smoke. If its not getting enough gas it will usually backfire through the carb. If its rich it will usually spudder through the exhaust. If you just raise the idle does it stay smooth, or does it start to spudder after you even the throttle off? What kind of out drive does it have? could that have a bearing seized in it?

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