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    Is there any way to repair this?

    I am a firm believer in "repair instead of replace." Any ideas at all on how I can repair this coil for my Z?
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    If the coil is good but the wire or cap is bad you can easily fix that. You can get replacement wire and a new cap, they just screw on (normal direction threads).
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    Do I have to get those pieces from Yamaha, or will any plug wire and cap work?

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    Ah, a cap from anyone should work without much fuss. NGK makes aftermarket caps and I beleive that they offer wire as well, Check with any local atv parts place.
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    Thanks Will, I did not think of that.

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    Trim the wire back an inch past the bad spot, solder a new piece of copper or steel core plug wire (Belden makes it, NAPA should have some). Put a piece of tubing over the joint and fill the tube with - YES, JB - WELD !!! - and itll work like a champ. Cure the JB in a warm place about 150*F and itll set up like stone. This is how I extended my 250R coil wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamGeek6
    Trim the wire back an inch past the bad spot, solder a new piece of copper or steel core plug wire (Belden makes it, NAPA should have some). Put a piece of tubing over the joint and fill the tube with - YES, JB - WELD !!! - and itll work like a champ. Cure the JB in a warm place about 150*F and itll set up like stone. This is how I extended my 250R coil wire.

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    You would not happen to have a photograph of this set up would you?

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    Hey Lonesome, have you tried to unsrew the wire yet? If it comes out, splicing would be a bad idea. Instead of splicing in a new cable you could just install the cable. What's it off of?
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    Yeah, I can post it but like Oldschool said, check to see if it unscrews first, that would be a lot easier. If not, let us know and Ill go snap a pix

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolin86
    Hey Lonesome, have you tried to unsrew the wire yet? If it comes out, splicing would be a bad idea. Instead of splicing in a new cable you could just install the cable. What's it off of?

    Any ideas at all on how I can repair this coil for my Z?


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    Yeah, ity is for one of my Tri-Z's

    I tried to unscrew it. Now I have to repiar the coil itself. I think splicing may be my only option.

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    I've got a spare in my hands here from a Z it does come out but they gule their's in, there's not screw. I was able to get the wire out of mine. It's in there about an inch. If you can get your's out you could easily glue a new one right in there. You mention you broke yours? It you broke the thin little plastic by the coil don't worry, it's not really doing much. It won't matter if you have it or not.
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    Duct tape. It works wonders. My friend did this with his beater suzuki 125
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolin86
    I've got a spare in my hands here from a Z it does come out but they gule their's in, there's not screw. I was able to get the wire out of mine. It's in there about an inch. If you can get your's out you could easily glue a new one right in there. You mention you broke yours? It you broke the thin little plastic by the coil don't worry, it's not really doing much. It won't matter if you have it or not.

    Once I broke the plastic I stopped messing with it. I may try what you suggested. Now the question is, Where do I get a whole new wire and cap?

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    85 YT175 For sale,
    83 YTM 225DX,
    83 YTM 200L For sale,
    82 Tri-Zinger 60 For sale,
    8? YTZ 80 Conversion,
    85 YT 125,
    89 Pro Hauler 230,
    05 YFZ 450,
    99 V-Star,

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    I have a better Idea. Take a die grinder/dremel with a cut off wheel and cut the plastic off the coil where the wire goes in. If your good you can get it off in one peice. After the wire is exposed cut it so you have a bout and in to work with. Use copper core wire since it flexes more readily. Solder a piece on a little longer than you need. Then take some silicone(not necesarily gasket maker, window sillicone will do) and fill in around the wire completely covering it, if you were able to get the cover off whole then put a little sillicone on it and stick it back on let it dry and you have a coil that will last . Avoid soldering copper and steel wires together because the mixture of the metal makes them corrode faster.
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