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  1. #1
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    `84 ATC 70 with no spark......

    just picked up an `84 atc70 for my youngest today......trike has no spark.....i pulled the magneto off and cleaned up the points(which are new) and the surfaces on the inside of the magneto and the stator....checked the points to make sure they were opening when the magneto rotated around(waiting on a shop manual for it to arrive so i don`t know if the points are adjusted right)...and the previous owner had also replaced the coil with a "universal"coil...i tried both with it,and then reinstalled the factory coil he had removed,and still no spark....

    what do ya`ll "experts" suggest?

    thanks!

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

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    what?.....nobody has any ideas?

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

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    Hornetpowerspor is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    Maybe your condenser? You will need a soldering iron to change that. Set your point gap around .016 of an inch. The book calls for them to be a little closer, but this works best for me. I have 4 of these machines, and a friend of mine has about 10, and I have never seen one of those coils go bad.
    Another thing to try is check all of your wiring for shorts. Sometimes when they sit in a barn for a while the mice seem to get to them.

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    Similar thing happened to me on a boat motor, had the coils wired to the opposite point and it wouldnt fire. The point had to break when the magnet aligned with the coil, and it was 180* off. Check the air gap between coil and rotor, about 0.014" typical. Not much else to go wrong except bad magnet (not likely) or bad coils.

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    ATCnut is offline Got The Holeshot Arm chair racerJust too addicted
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    You check the stator coil like I suggested at .org??
    ATCnut

    82 185s - sold
    83 200x (hopped up)
    84 200x (stock)
    84 70 (lost this one to the DMV)
    85 70 (soon to have lights, a foot brake, and CDI ignition)
    84 200es (parts trike) - sold
    85 350X (the best)
    85 350X (siezed motor, dream of a poweroll kit someday)
    85 250sx (frame was trash, got parted out)
    86 250sx (the tractor)
    86 250sx (a nicer tractor)
    86 250sx (an even nicer tractor)
    87 200x (parts trike, its really rough, a dog was chewing on it for a while)
    87 250es Big Red (the tank!!)

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    ok....i`ve checked the stator coil with an ohmmeter,and got a reading of .4 on one and .7 on the other....but the manual doesn`t give any specs on what it should be in order to tell if they are acceptable.....any suggestions anyone?

    trikes owned:
    1982 ATC 185S
    1983 ATC 185S
    (2) 1984 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 200M
    (2) 1984 ATC 200S
    (3) 1984 ATC 200X
    made one an auto-x,easy swap
    1985 ATC 250R (stolen!...the bastards!...it was mint!)

    own now:
    1985 ATC 250R (running)
    1986 ATC 250R(parts bike)
    1984 ATC 250r w/ 280cc kit in it(pretty rough-needs TLC)
    1984 ATC 200s (running)
    1982 ATC 185s (running)
    (2)1984 ATC 200s(parts)
    1984 ATC 70 (parts)
    1983 ATC 70(off ebay-running)
    1985 ATC 70 (running)
    198? ATC 70 (running)
    1984 ATC 200x (running)(have made it an auto-x until i rebuild the top end of the X motor)
    1985 ATC 200x roller(gonna make another auto-x)
    Eric

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