Ugh!! Electrical problems!!! Help......!!

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 11:36 AM

Ok. So. As many of you probably know, I am putting a 350X headlight on my SX and having difficulties. Well while I was out there trying to wire it up, I accidentally touched two of the wires together, and the lights on the dash went off. Nothing works now. What did I do?? Did I just blow a fuse? Or do I need to like replace the whole wiring harness or something?? Please give me good news because I have NOTHING more to spend on this SX project!!!

**freewheel3** · 09-01-2005, 12:39 PM

Probably blew a fuse would be my guess, although I couldn't tell you where it is off the top of my head. I see in your other thread you mention connecting other wires to the common ground (green). Don't do that unless they are ground wires, otherwise, instant short & you are now a welder (bet you didn't know you could weld, even if it was only for a millisecond or two)
My SX came with a 200x socket in the uninstalled headlight. Had to cut the plugs off of both ends (OMG!!!) & wire it in with insulated spade connectors. All 3 colors matched up. White, blue & green.
In the future, disconnect the battery when playing with the wiring. Yeah I know its a pain, but where are you now?
Even without lights I think you have the nicest SX dash to ever "grace gods good earth" (wink,wink)

**slothminx** · 09-01-2005, 01:10 PM

on the sx/es there is a 15 amp fuse in a case by the battery i would guess that this is the one that has blown. have a look on the es it is mounted by the battery and i think on the case it has fuse written on it

take a look at this and if its burns out you can get some household fuse wire in there but that shouldnt be permanent.

**bigredhead** · 09-01-2005, 01:53 PM

If you shorted the wires for just a few seconds.. the fuse would go before anything else.. Did it smoke and smell really really bad ? or just spark and then nothing ? ( it should have just sparked and blown the fuse.)

Sometimes.. stupid people will fill the fuse cavity with metal ie: foil .. but this is a BAD idea.. the fuse had a job.. and a purpose.. to burn up and short before your wires do.

Look for a rubber boot with red wires comming out from it.. close to the battery. mine is located at the back of the machine zip tied to the frame ( got relocated at some point ) ..

**bigredhead** · 09-01-2005, 03:27 PM

http://www.files.3wheelerworld.com/W...TC250SXx85.jpg

Edit : to remove my own post.. this made no sense.. refer to bottom reply

**bigredhead** · 09-01-2005, 03:36 PM

http://www.files.3wheelerworld.com/W...Xx85Thru86.jpg

looking at this ... does the 350x headlight have 6 wires comming out of it ? if it does.. combine the similar colours from the headlight. and then use the 3 strands to the bike.....

better yet.. post a picture of the wires themselves on both headlight and bike i'll figure it out for ya !

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 05:33 PM

I'll get back to the wiring as soon as I figure out my problem. I looked at the fuse earlier, and it didn't look blown. When I touched them together, all the lights on the bike went out. There was no sound.. they all just instantly went out. Is this the fuse?? Where would I pick up another fuse at? Is there only one fuse on this bike and it is the one by the battery?? I got my gas tank back today and It is now ont he bike and I fired it up with the kick starter. When it is running, the lights on the dash and headlight/taillight work just fine.. but when I just turn the key, nothing works. It has to be running for anything to work. Diagnosis?

**Tri-ZNate** · 09-01-2005, 05:39 PM

So you didnt get a chance to check the wiring I told you huh?
as for a diagnosis I think you shorted your battery and its dead now.

**bigredhead** · 09-01-2005, 05:52 PM

Just touching the wires on the headlight won't short your battery that quickly.. you have to short it out for a good 20 or more seconds and it would smoke like crazy and the wire insulation would have melted in a few places..

If the lights work when the motor is running. then the bulbs and wires are fine.. If you have a multimeter... put it on Ohms ( the horsehoe symbol ) and check your fuse.. if it reads something it's fine.. if it don't then the fuse is blown. You can also check the fuse with a lightbult and a few wires.. .. ..

Put the original light back on the SX and test everyting out ..

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 06:38 PM

I did everything except put the original light back on the SX. Even teh taillight doesn't work unless the motor is running. I either killed the battery, or shorted the fuse. Would the fuse look blown if I had blown it?? Anyway. Where would I get a new fuse?? Just any fuse that is the same size/rating?

And on a happier note, I just test rode the SX. Everything is ready except the headlight and taillight.. well of course aside from the electrical problem. The taillight should be getting put on tomorrow or Saturday, and the headlight will be put on as soon as we figure out this electrical problem. And I hope we can figure it out fast!! I'm itching to finish this thing up.

And also, my tank got back from paint this morning. It looks GREAT. I'll post some pics of the tank in a few minutes, and if you guys would like I will post a few of the SX done. Although I don't want to post many becaue I want it to be FULLY done when I show you guys what she's made of.

The SuperTrapp is awesome and I would highly recommend it. I notice a tiny loss in power, but it is made up for in speed. The loss in horsepower is nothing. The throttle seems more responsive for some reason as well. I love this SuperTrapp, and I would highly recommend it to ANYONE. You guys know what those loud-ass Harleys sound like going down the road? Well that is what this thing sounds like, only on a slightly smaller scale. It is crazy loud with 12 discs.

Oh and btw 250sxwheeliepop.. yes I did get a chance to try out your wiring pattern. It didn't work. Unless the bike has to be on for the low beam to work, it didn't work. I screwed up the electrical stuff when I was trying my own combinations. (I had written down every possible combo of wiring, and was doing it by process of elimination.)

**Tri-ZNate** · 09-01-2005, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by nouseforaname90

and if you guys would like I will post a few of the SX done.

If you dont post pics i'll kick your ass. I mostly want to see that supertrapp.

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 07:05 PM

Well there is a pic of the SuperTrapp in my sig! lol. I'll post them in a minute. I just got done eating.

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 07:10 PM

Ok. There you go. There are some of the SuperTrapp. The ones of the bike right now are still loading.

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 07:38 PM

Here are some more pics:

Here is the tank after wet sanding:

We had to wetsand the tank because it had a few bumps and stuff in it, and my painter (actually neighbor) didn't like it, and he wanted it perfect. So we wet sanded it with 2000 grit sandpaper for about an hour.
Here is Kaz buffing the tank with 3M Perfect It-II:

Here is the tank when he got the one side almost done:

Finished product:

The tank after I put the decals fron Harlan on and put it on the bike:

**nouseforaname90** · 09-01-2005, 07:39 PM

Pictures of the SX with the new tank. And new headlight (Thanks Travis!!!!)! And new PRM grabbar!! haha:

The headlight shell and front fender are fine, but the rear fender looks like **** on this bike right now. I am getting new ones for Christmas, so I'm not worried about it.. but it looks really bad on the bike at the moment.

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