I saw this on exriders and figured i'd pass it along.
http://gtthunder.com/YFZ450/2006YFZ450.htm
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I saw this on exriders and figured i'd pass it along.
http://gtthunder.com/YFZ450/2006YFZ450.htm
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Wow, that's crazy. I think to fix it I'd be taking it back to the dealer.
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thats a yama haha for ya, i love my hondas but i like the older yammys liek the shee and the tri-z thats bout it.
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Maybe this will leave them singing that Toby kieth song "I should have been a cowboy" only they'll be saying "I should have bought a HONDA". HAHAHA Funny how engineers could miss something like that??? Oh well, just buy a 450r, solves that proublem!!!
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Not engineers...but assemblers. When I worked at the Yamaha/Honda dealership we had a couple really questionable things from Yamaha AND Honda both. More of the Yamaha's though. Like, drain plugs cross threaded, ground wires sitting right ontop of the frame paint with the clear coat still there and the end of a spark plug where the wire goes on bent so bad we had to use a pair of vice grips on the boot to get it off.
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You cant down a whole name brand of machines just b/c someone didnt do thier job.I find it hard to believe that this could happen to ALL 2006 YFZ's,and if it did,then I would blame it on the engineers for not knowing how much torque is needed to hold a bolt in place. Aren't the 06 YFZ motors the same as 04 and 05?? Why didnt the first YFZ's have this problem?
Billy, In regards to the ground wire laying on the frame paint. Isnt the wire still touching the frame through the screw/bolt. I do alot of painting and never scrape the paint off for that.I havent had a problem with one yet. lol,My paintjobs are way to nice to be scraping off for a lil ground wire.....then again I usually smash the frame by accident atleast once during reassembly with a ratchet or wrench.
okieRrider,Thanx for passing that along.
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Somebody correct me if Im wrong (dont worry, Im not) but the 450R had a lot bumpier debut with bugs than the YFZ450 did. Both are fine machines. Blind alliance to a name brand deprives a person of the ability to learn. Granted, Honda dominated the ATV market in the 80's, but can anybody tell me what great contributions Honda made to the ATV world in the 90's and who sold the most sport quads during that time?
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No problem guys I didn't know if anyone here had a new one or not but figured it was worth the read even if someones uncles mother dogs brother in law has one....lol. I do not believe this was an engineering factor I just think the assembly was wrong or had the wrong torque, or it just wasn't done in the first place.
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I can't think that this is a widespread situation. Isolated at best. It wouldn't hurt to check, but I just don't think that this would affect every new YFZ. It's not like the engineers one day said "Hey Shinji, I think I'm gonna specify 1/4 the proper torque for these two bolts for no reason."I would have to say that it would come down to the person who assembled the engine.
Amen to that Tim.Originally Posted by TimSr
I have nothing against Honda owners, hell, I am one, but I do get sick of the infallible attitude most hold. Honda isn't perfect, and most are basing their opinions off the products of the eighties or what they have heard other people say.
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TimSr, I'm not sure if your aware (you proubly are) that Honda made a deal not to make a performance quad for ten years. they stopped production of the TRX250R in 89, then came out with the 400EX in 1999. All they had in between then was the 300ex, their only "performance" quad. LOL!!! ANyway do you think Honda really wanted to stop making the 250R??? It won all the races, it was a HUGE hit!! I don't know the exact terms of the deal honda made, but it's clear one was made. I'm sure Honda wouldn't have sat by watching everybody out'do them willingly. They had motors like the 250R and 350x to work with, which later evoled to the 400ex.
It really is to bad that deal was made......we could have had the 250r still today!!!!!!!!!!
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Please enlighten me on this "deal"
I wont type up a good reply just yet, I wanna hear what you have to say. Tell me some more specifics. Perhaps the name of this "deal"
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A deal with whom? What did Honda get out of this deal? I heard that rumor. I also heard that the 250R was SO FAST that they had too many lawsuits. I believe both rumors are baloney, and Ive never seen any evidence or doucmentation to support either one. Remember, the Banshee introduced in 1987 never ceased production. It was certainly a performance quad. Why would Honda make an agreement with anyone to bow to the competition? The best theory I heard, that is supported, was that Honda saw two stroke emmissions regulations in the near future, and concentrated on the 4 stroke market. Only problem was they missed the mandated two stroke phase out by about 15 years! By the mid 90's they realized they jumped the gun and made a mistake, and pursued the idea of throwing out another performance quad. They still saw an end to two strokes, and it was too late in the game to release another 2 stroke so they got this idea from earlier racers putting 350x motors on a 250R chassis. Yes, I know, the 400EX is NOT a 350x on a 250R chassis, but it pretty well captured the essence and is the idea the 400EX was built on. The 400EX was really nothing new, or anything technologically advanced. It was a 10 year old chassis design, with a slightly newer design 4 stroke engine. Great machine, but nothing new here.
The 300EX was a 250X with an electric starter, and a longer stroke. Nothing new here either.
The answer to my question is that Honda contributed practically nothing to sport ATVs in the 90's. While Yamaha didnt really offer anything new, they continued to produce the two most successful sport ATV models during the 90's, The Banshee and the Blaster. I believe they even outsold Hondas with the Warrior during that period, but IM not sure on that one.
Hondas are great machines, but to label them the best ATVs of all time, you have to ignore a 10 year span when Yamaha's completely ruled. Ill give it to Honda in the 80's. Ill give it to Yamaha in the 90's. Ill give it to Honda for the first few years of the new millenium, but today Ill give you a coin to toss.
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^^^ I understand completely what you are saying. I just doubt that Honda over shot the emmisions thing by 15 years.......come on now, in all seriousness!?!?!?! honda over-shot by 15 years yet yamaha managed to keep it's banshee and blaster to the bitter end, 2007??? Yeah that seems likely.....
Anyway if Honda was trying to concentrate all their effort on 4-strokes, then why did it take them till 1999 to make the 400ex?? Practicly the same engine as the 350x and a very familiar chassis. I completely agree with you that the 400ex was nothing new or really impressive. Neither was the banshee or blaster for that matter. There had to have been some kind of agreement made with the CPSC or something. After all, Honda invented ATV's and sold the most. So most people died or got hurt on their products. You can easily see why the CPSC or whomever would hate them with a passion!!! I HIGHLY doubt honda would sit by for a decade and do nothing to compete with yamaha or other companies, not willingly anyway....
On a side note, it's kind of sad how slow ATV's evlved in the 1990's. I mean, nothing new was made in the way of sport models until the 400ex really...I think the 1990's were truely crappy times for ATV's. Now we have plenty of competition agian! I can't frigan wait for the 450r vs YFZ vs Z450 shootout!!!
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You are 100% wrong. When the banshee came out in 1987 it was unreal and everyone I knew wanted one. I personnally don't like the banshee because the way it handles. But all things aside the banshee flat out hauls arse.
The blaster is still a near perfect small sport quad. Yeah they had/have brake issues. I love riding the blasters, a person can manhandle them and throw them anywhere you want to put them. Name another quad you can buy brand new for $3,200 and get that much performance. Install a pipe and kn filter and you have a machien that can run with nearly any machien out there.
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