At The Back Of The Pack
Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
hi guys
i need help, i fitted new rear drum shoes to a 87 big red, i shamferred the ends of the shoes, fitted them and put it all back together, when i took it down the road for a test, the brakes are now worse than with the old shoes, i made sure all the parts were oil free and clean before fitting. where did i go wrong??? any suggestions greatly appreciated.
cheers steve
HONDA ATC250ESJ 1988
HONDA 250R `85 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 350X `86 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 250ES `87 SOLD
YAMAHA YZ100 `80 project
HONDA ATC350X `85 PROJECT FINISHED
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Lord of the trike
Did you re-adjust the adjusters ?
Make sure the cable is routed correctly and not snagged.. etc..
Did the new shoes have more meat than the old one's.. have you laid them side by side to compare ? ( i would assume they do.. but if you got the wrong pads.. it might be aparent this way )
Did the old shoes have spacers where they mount to the tabs on the backing plate ?
Currently :
82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
84 125 M - The Mini-SXnot running yet. but won't be long.
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Power User
Lord of the trike
There are 2 places to mount the cable on the backing plate.. you got the lower one right ?
the other one is for the hand brake. do you have the hand brake on that thing ?
Currently :
82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
84 125 M - The Mini-SX
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The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !
At The Back Of The Pack
Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
hi thanx for the reply, i`ve got everything in place, according to the manual, all the cables are ok ,no snagging. new honda shoes, it stops the bike but won`t lock up the rear? just seems to pull me up very slowly.
if i rev it it won`t hold back with the brake on.
HONDA ATC250ESJ 1988
HONDA 250R `85 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 350X `86 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 250ES `87 SOLD
YAMAHA YZ100 `80 project
HONDA ATC350X `85 PROJECT FINISHED
Power User
Lord of the trike
I'm willing to bet you have grease or oil on the drum and pads..
clean it up with minieral spirits.. varsol.. rubbing alcohol .. windex if you have to... but wipe down the drum and shoes good.. make sure you don't touch them with greasy fingers..
Even go over the surfaces with an 80 sand paper to rough the surface up some.
Currently :
82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
84 125 M - The Mini-SX
--
The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !
At The Back Of The Pack
Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
ok i`ll pull it apart again tomorrow, and clean them up to see if this cures it thanks for your help.
HONDA ATC250ESJ 1988
HONDA 250R `85 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 350X `86 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 250ES `87 SOLD
YAMAHA YZ100 `80 project
HONDA ATC350X `85 PROJECT FINISHED
Power User
Lord of the trike
And sometimes a few good HARD stops get them seated and broken in...LOL>.
Currently :
82 ATC - 200, plain jane, almost mint. ( Sold, 03-17-2005)
84 ATC - 200 ES, Jimmy-Rigged, don't ask.( Sold, 03-17-2005)
85 ATC - 250 SX, Pride and Joy, Bottom-Less Money Pit.
84 125 M - The Mini-SX
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The more people i meet.. the more i like my DOG !
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Arm chair racerNew to the board
I had the same problem on my '85 and bigredhead is on the money. Once you break 'em in a little they'll stick a lot better. You dont need to slam the breaks, just give a little bit of break and troll around the yard in 1st for a couple min.
1985 Honda 250ES Big Red
"So, uhhh, whats that fourth wheel for anyway?"
People who hate trikes seem to love stats. Statisticly speaking more people get hurt per year on 4 wheelers than they do on 3 wheelers, so why don't they just leave us alone?
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The day begins with 3WW
Try taking some emery cloth to the inside of the drum, take the glaze off, it will help a TON....
1985 Tri-Z-
Originally Posted by mywifeknowseverything
Formerly MNRebel
Arm chair racerJust too addicted
your drum might be glased, try sanding it a little, if they goe overworked and hot, this happens
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Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
thanks guys 4 the answers, i`ve been full of cold so haven`t done anymore to the red, i think you`re right about the drum being glazed though, since before putting the new shoes in it was binding on a bit.
cheers guys
HONDA ATC250ESJ 1988
HONDA 250R `85 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 350X `86 restored SOLD
HONDA ATC 250ES `87 SOLD
YAMAHA YZ100 `80 project
HONDA ATC350X `85 PROJECT FINISHED
Got The Holeshot
Arm chair racerJust too addicted
The other problem you might be having is that the drum is worn and ovesize. I have had to put a couple of wraps of pop can on the round pin that the one end of the shoes push on, to make them go out a little more.
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82 185s - sold
83 200x (hopped up)
84 200x (stock)
84 70 (lost this one to the DMV)
85 70 (soon to have lights, a foot brake, and CDI ignition)
84 200es (parts trike) - sold
85 350X (the best)
85 350X (siezed motor, dream of a poweroll kit someday)
85 250sx (frame was trash, got parted out)
86 250sx (the tractor)
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