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    Arrow UPDATE: why wont it start!

    I found out my spark today it is blueish is that good? Also i pulled the spark plug and i noticed the botoom of it was smelling like gas or oil is this normal? And i have compression on the pull start so its not the clip is it? I am starting to think its the carb but i dont no what could possibly b wrong!

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    still doesnt start i tried the starting fluid and gas in the engine idea.... no go... I know one day thanks to you fell great trikers this babe will run like a top when it starts on the 1st pull !

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    about this crank key thing do i have to take off the screws on the puller?? 2 of mine are stripped!!! i think thats my problem but i havent got a clue what to do!

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    You can take your left side case off fairly easily.
    You have to take the recoil off first and then There is a bolt in the center, take that off, then unbolt all the bolts holding the left side cover on.

    Try pulling on the flywheel with your hands and see if it will come off, if it does. That isn't right, and the woodruff key was probaly sheered. I'm not sure, but I think if you can't pull it off, there still might be a possibility of the key being sheared.

    Keep all your bolts in order...

    Don't try to use a phillips head screwdriver on them, you'll never get them off.
    Use an impact driver, I bought one for $10 and use it all the time, never has failed me.

    I am still leaning towards it being a carb problem though.....

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    On the case - in the area of the flywheel is a rubber plug. pop it off and slowly rotate the flywheel until a small "T" appears in the window. Take your spark plug out. Get a coat hanger- straighten out an 8- 10 inch section. Put the hanger into the spark plug hole and "Feel" around for the piston top. slowly-by hand - rotate the flywheel while you feel the piston- when the piston comes to the top of its travel-Make a chalk mark on your coat hanger. Next -look in the window and line up the "T" with the index mark in the timing window-----Put your coat hanger back in the hole..... is the chalk mark in the same place?
    Buy American! Unless your only option is a HARLEY.

    A customer walked in to my shop and Impatiently stated "My car doesnt start, Whats the problem?"I responded with a smile-"Yep that sounds like your problem alright"----

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    Quote Originally Posted by YTM200BOY

    I found out my spark today it is blueish is that good?


    Also i pulled the spark plug and i noticed the botoom of it was smelling like gas or oil is this normal? (
    Even im at a loss to explain a blue spark plug! Got a picture?

    Smelling like gas will happen if its either way rich or ignition not working. Even if its running normally, the spark plug can smell a little like gas after the engine spins down after hitting the kill switch if its a carburetor engine.

    Take the spark plug out and crank the engine over 10 times with throttle wide open to clear the cylinder. Put a new spark plug in gapped at 0.040." Give it a 1/2 second shot of starting fluid in the carb with throttle wide open. Release the throttle, then open it just a little (a tiny little bit) and try to start it. If it doesnt fire, look for failed ignition.

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    Im not trying to be a "KNow It ALL" --but logically- all of his problems can be explained---
    It was flooding with the old float..-PHYSICS 101--Liquid cannot be compressed-
    if he cranked it with a "LOADED" cylinder--- The key would shear off.
    The pull starter is easier to pull---Rotor slipping on crank shaft
    Fouled spark plug----Retarded ignition timing due to ---Sheared key
    Backfires -retarded ignition----
    It all makes sense---
    Buy American! Unless your only option is a HARLEY.

    A customer walked in to my shop and Impatiently stated "My car doesnt start, Whats the problem?"I responded with a smile-"Yep that sounds like your problem alright"----

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    no the spark plug wasnt blue i said when i put a screw driver in the plug that goes on the spark plug and tested it on the frame it gives blue spark.

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    what color was the plug then? The color of the screw driver spark doesnt help.
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    Take a spark plug------ connect the wire onto it and touch the PLUG to the frame----
    The actual resistance in the plug may change the results. Typically------ (NOT ABSOLUTELY) If you have a decent sized spark the "ORANGE or Blue" debate is un necessary- For a "No Start" -Any spark at all will usually be enough to get you in the "BALLPARK"-
    Buy American! Unless your only option is a HARLEY.

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    You guys told me to put starting fuild and gas in the engine hole where the carb would be if it was on and it spit of FLAMES!!!! WTF i put it out in about 5 secondds though very very scary....

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    Flames?!?!? I think you put too much in. Try just a quick sqirt next time with no gas.
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    im afriad to start it up when i give it a full pull it start a flame

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    Quote Originally Posted by YTM200BOY
    You guys told me to put starting fuild and gas in the engine hole where the carb would be if it was on and it spit of FLAMES!!!! WTF i put it out in about 5 secondds though very very scary....
    you dont put starter fluid there....Take your plug out and pour a few drops of gasoline down your SPARK PLUG HOLE. put your plug back in, put the cap on and pull.
    I just re read your other post...you said it was real easy to pull? when you put you finger over the spark plug hole, does it blow it off? if not, it probaly is your woodruff key.
    I'm learning stuff too here, Ive never had a key shear on me before...

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    o ok lol sorry some1 told me something else

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