Possible 87 250R found..(UPDATED) 7.31.06

**rich250rracer** · 07-31-2006, 01:02 AM

I just saw this thread for the first time since I'm new here. Hopefully I can give a little useful info. I worked at Andrews Honda in Salem, Ohio from March of 1987 to July of 1987. While I was there, we had 2 '86 250R's and 1 '85 250R on the showroom floor. They were available for sale at that time, so the order to destroy them must have come down later than everyone thinks. This should make the possibility of an '87 exsistence more likely.

**Nick_R_23** · 07-31-2006, 01:07 AM

This should make the possibility of an '87 exsistence more likely.

Every little bit of info helps! I personally dont think this ones an '87, but Im sure somebody somewheres got one of the few lucky trikes to make it past chopping stashed in a barn somewhere and doesnt know that its rare.

-Nick

**petesatc** · 07-31-2006, 04:02 AM

Well i found out it is a 86 bike but the guy bought the plastics and decals in 2000 ....here's some more pics......

**69HemiGTX** · 07-31-2006, 05:43 AM

I wonder where the radiator shrouds came from, because they are much higher quality than Maier. Look at the edges of the air holes. They are recessed and very crisp like original Honda parts, whereas Maier's are fairly soft and rounded around the openings. The bolt bosses are much larger on the Maier shrouds, too. The white shrouds are definitely injection molded.

**69HemiGTX** · 07-31-2006, 06:09 AM

I just noticed another thing. The decal has a white background. Why would you put a decal with a white background on a white shroud? You wouldn't because it makes no sense. Unless they were made by Harlan or someone with the same equipment, I would speculate that they might be genuine Honda. Not even the cheap layered repro decals would have a white background. Other than exact reproduction type decals, only real ones from Honda would have the white background, just like there are red backgrounds for use with red plastic. This is getting interesting.

**petesatc** · 07-31-2006, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by 69HemiGTX

I just noticed another thing. The decal has a white background. Why would you put a decal with a white background on a white shroud? You wouldn't because it makes no sense. Unless they were made by Harlan or someone with the same equipment, I would speculate that they might be genuine Honda. Not even the cheap layered repro decals would have a white background. Other than exact reproduction type decals, only real ones from Honda would have the white background, just like there are red backgrounds for use with red plastic. This is getting interesting.

All honda Oem decals have a color background??? check out any 86R decals??they got a red background....

**Darius1502** · 07-31-2006, 12:39 PM

Hmmmm...that is interesting about the background

**Jeb** · 07-31-2006, 01:25 PM

Am I seeing this correct??? It may be an 86 250r, but that looks like factory plastic. In white? Did he order 87 flavor plastics & decals back in 2000 and actually got them?

If you look at the 3rd pic, up under the rear fender, it looks like you can see the boss in the plastic that the "forward" rear fender support hooks into. I can't remember for sure, but it isn't it true that Maier plastic does not have the hook bosses????

MIGHT be an indication that the rear fender is indeed a factory Honda part.

The shrouds & decals sure look it to me. The white matches perfectly from the decal to the shroud, just like the OEM red ones.

**Darius1502** · 07-31-2006, 01:37 PM

Also look at the cut out of the graphic around the wing...exactly perfect.

I don't have reproduction shroud graphics for my R but tell me are they usually cut just right like these?

Also that R is exactly like the '87 pic in the famous '87's Brochure'

**Darius1502** · 07-31-2006, 01:38 PM

One more thing....that lead me to believe that these are in fact OEM decals.

Notice where the '2' and the '5' are multicolored and the red and blue blend.

There is a slight overlay that actually makes it darker...like a purple. All the OEM decals on my '86 R have that exact type of 'blend'.

Thats one thing that Harlan's decals don't have. So these look like the real deal to me.

Has anyone tried to order some?

**Darius1502** · 07-31-2006, 01:40 PM

Someone needs to get a close up of the rear fender to see if there are warning labels molded in there.

Ask the owner and see if he can get a close up. Or if its for sale...someone buy the dang thing!!

**petesatc** · 07-31-2006, 02:36 PM

Yes i'm 100% sure these are OEM fenders and decals only reason i haven't posted the pics earlier is i'm still tring to buy this bike or get hold of some plastics...but not had that much luck yet...the guy did infact find these parts on the self of a dealer in Japan....this was back in 2000 but sure there must be more out there...i've got the 87R part numbers in a parts manual.....I sure there's white plastics out there just got to find them

only find one more pic.....
Jez help me out dude????you got them all

**whipit** · 07-31-2006, 02:50 PM

here is another japanese web page about 250r's...doesnt look like this guy knows anything about an 87 either http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~kaz-zx11/ATC250R.html

**Darius1502** · 07-31-2006, 03:25 PM

Wow Pete....this is amazing news!!

I think the world just stopped for a second...yes someone buy up all that '87 stuff before they throw it out!!

**Jeb** · 07-31-2006, 05:22 PM

That is awesome, because there has definitely been an 87 seat on ebay. I had noticed it on ebay and I think Jez bought it.

Now there's proof of 87 flavor FACTORY fenders and decals in white! Man, if that trike just had the white head light plastic.

Anyone have any info on the rear fender "ATC250R" decal that's on the very back? Is the one on the bike actually 86? What's the difference between 86 & 87 on that decal except it should have a white background instead of red?

Exciting!

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