//ArrowChat Code
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Strength Test ■ vs. ▲

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Iowa
    --
    75

    Strength Test ■ vs. ▲

    So i broke off my shift rod on my 89 mojave. I am thinking i can repair it with some custom attention. I have about 1" still sticking out of the side of the case, my plan it to grind the remaining shaft int either a square or a triangle. I then will attach a custom made shift rod, with either a square or triangle opening and weld it to the shaft. from there i will consrtuct my custom shifter rod.

    My question is in reguard to the shape of the cut on the shaft or if anyone would advise such a process. I think a triangle would be stronger than a square and less prone to round off. although more will have to be cut for the triangle making it weaker near the end of the grind.

    suggestions?
    Last edited by kernalklink; 12-27-2005 at 04:45 PM.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    83 atc 110
    85 big red 250es
    95 Kawasaki Mojave
    71 SL70 - basket case - picked up 9/9/08

    as soon as you're born you start dying so you might as well have a good time - John McCrea

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    springville, PA
    --
    6,185
    the 45 degree triangle is the strongest geometric shape which is why they use alot of them for supports and such in buildings, but in your case I would say a square since there wil be more corners to grab onto and it wont be as liable to round off.
    Nate

    The Myth, The MAN, The Legend
    R.I.P HRR

    Quote Originally Posted by honda250sx View Post
    Fact: Dr. Death is Bob from Enzyte.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Pyeongtaek, South Korea
    --
    474
    Actually, the equiangular, equilateral triangle is the strongest (60 degree angles). If I were to do what you are, I would use the square end because of the greater surface area and greater material at the corners to resist failure. The shear moments on the corners of the triangle would be too great, so you would round it off quickly.
    Operation Iraqi Freedom V and Operation Enduring Freedom X veteran

    The Constitution and Bill of Rights were written in common English for the common man. There is no interpretation necessary.

    "To err is human, to err continuously is liberal." - Me

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Duluth MN
    --
    803
    you are welding it so it will not move and cant round off. go square and check it once and again.
    Confused As A Hungry Baby In A Topless Bar!!!

    '04 Honda CRF250R
    '82 Honda 200 4'sale soon
    '90 and '91 Arctic Cat Prowler 440
    '81 Kawasaki LTD 440 Belt Drive!!
    '92 Yamaha Warrior 350
    '05 DS 90

    Helmet save'd my friend's life, and mine, wear one!!!
    Trying is the first step to failure
    3ww Needs an iPhone app

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Roanoke, VA
    --
    4,038
    Some driveshafts are square...need I say more?
    [20:55] <waterpumper> putting a racing pipe on a Foreman is like putting a high dollar bikini on a 400 pound chick...just because it fits doesn't mean it looks cool

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    indiana
    --
    892
    Tell you what I would do, I would order a new shift shaft and fix it right the first time! But seriously, if you get it to work out it might work for a while but when it breaks again it will be even harder to fix most likely.

  7. #7
    250rAL is offline Just Too Addicted Arm chair racerJust too addicted
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Sabula,IA
    --
    619
    Not familiar with this motor, but will you be able to get the side cover off after you weld the shifter on?
    __________________
    '85 ATC250R
    .030 Over Wiseco
    FMF Pipe/Answer silencer
    36PJ Keihin
    K&N
    Boyesen reeds
    Magura hydraulic clutch
    Roost Boost
    MSR bars
    OMF swingarm skid
    ITP Beadlocks

    Three Wheelin' Since '84

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Duluth MN
    --
    803
    just thought of something last night. Think of a rachet. its square
    Confused As A Hungry Baby In A Topless Bar!!!

    '04 Honda CRF250R
    '82 Honda 200 4'sale soon
    '90 and '91 Arctic Cat Prowler 440
    '81 Kawasaki LTD 440 Belt Drive!!
    '92 Yamaha Warrior 350
    '05 DS 90

    Helmet save'd my friend's life, and mine, wear one!!!
    Trying is the first step to failure
    3ww Needs an iPhone app

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Spruce Head Island, Maine
    --
    893
    square has more material in it than a triangle, the square would be stronger just because it has the added material in it.
    1983 Honda ATC 200x-shes a beater

    Past Rides:
    1982 ATC Big Red 200e (miss it more than i thought i would)
    1985 200x rode it for about a mile

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Spanaway, WA
    --
    1,240
    I'd just buy a new part and fix it right the first time.
    Hoarder of the finest junk

    '82 YT175
    '83 YTM200
    '85 KLT110
    '86 Moto 4 225
    '84 TRX200 trike conversion.
    '87 Tecate 4
    Lots of vintage and not so vintage two wheeled stuff.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Spruce Head Island, Maine
    --
    893
    haha damn straight
    1983 Honda ATC 200x-shes a beater

    Past Rides:
    1982 ATC Big Red 200e (miss it more than i thought i would)
    1985 200x rode it for about a mile

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Iowa
    --
    75
    Quote Originally Posted by TrikeKid
    I'd just buy a new part and fix it right the first time.
    But, the part is 100 freaking dollars, then i would also need a gasket set $100, might as well bore it and put in a new piston, port and polish the head... you see the problem there

    I have to split the case to change it!! It's not a quick and easy side cover!

    Also, the 4-wheeler was given to me!
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    83 atc 110
    85 big red 250es
    95 Kawasaki Mojave
    71 SL70 - basket case - picked up 9/9/08

    as soon as you're born you start dying so you might as well have a good time - John McCrea

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Spanaway, WA
    --
    1,240
    Yes, but would you rather ride knowing it was fixed right or have it break when you're in the middle of nowhere?
    Hoarder of the finest junk

    '82 YT175
    '83 YTM200
    '85 KLT110
    '86 Moto 4 225
    '84 TRX200 trike conversion.
    '87 Tecate 4
    Lots of vintage and not so vintage two wheeled stuff.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Massachusetts
    --
    1,272
    Well, thats when a pair of Vise Grips comes in handy

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Iowa
    --
    75
    Quote Originally Posted by Rm250RF900R
    Well, thats when a pair of Vise Grips comes in handy
    Thats how I'm riding it now!!!
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    83 atc 110
    85 big red 250es
    95 Kawasaki Mojave
    71 SL70 - basket case - picked up 9/9/08

    as soon as you're born you start dying so you might as well have a good time - John McCrea

//ArrowChat Integreation Code //