Are All Hondas Hard Starting

[250rmanfmf]

Not warming up an engine is not good, Metal expands when its heated up. Why do you think we break engines in? The pistons and rings will actually expand on a fully heated engine vs. a cold engine. Oil pressure is a plus but within the first 10 seconds its usually there. Just because you dont have problems with your engine at high milage when you are starting and going doesnt mean its good for the engine, 4 stroke or 2 stroke its good to warm them up before riding.

All in all people we do what they do, everybody has an opinion. Thats mine!

Also about the orignal topic, Hell my Hondas start up better than my Yamahas, my 250r starts on 1st or 2nd kick, and my Raptor 660 is somewhat hard to start along with my Yamaha R1. I have had better luck with Hondas and Kawasaki's starting better than Yamahas. Thats just me though

Tyler

[Unclediezel]

This is well known in automotive engineering, but is far beyond mechanics training.

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.Mr Geek--

I would gladly get on my knees and gravel at your feet --but you see after 20 years of "Mechanics Training" I cant bend Over anymore........
WTF???
GM rep? Oil Change Intervals? selling motors to those of us who cant take care of them?---HOGWASH----These are the same people who use electric oil pumps--and warranteed 34,000 engines last year alone---POP A FUSE-BLOW A MOTOR!!!

Just for argument--(Because we all know Cold Fuel is not as volatile as warm fuel)

How does this apply to a 2 stroke? There is no oil pressure---And the sulfuric residue is present in anything that burns Hydrocarbon based fuel--


The true facts here----You must establish normal operating temp before you can achieve proper fuel atomization----
#2---The sulfuric acid "WASHDOWN" is a result of moisture---which is a result of not reaching a temp high enough to "Steam-Off" any accumulated water.The vehicle with 2mile trips a day will be dead in a year--but the 500 mile a week cars will last forever-----My dodge Charger has 2 "QUARTER MILLION MILE" badges on it ---and I make it a point to drive it on a daily Basis.

[RedRider_AK]

Thats because engine wear happens when you first start the motor and all the oil is in the pan and no oil pressure.

That reminds me of something my Auto Shop teacher once thought of installing on his Bronco. It's an electric pump that draws oil over your valvetrain before you start it up. Basically, he said that if you had something like that, you could drive a car every day for your entire life and you'd never wear out the valvetrain.