The more I talk the longer my nose gets. I swear my name isn't Pinocchio though

[1985 200s]

Do we know anything about this person? Like maybe he's a kid starving for attention and this might of been the place he came to to get it. So he lied to get attention and now he's lost this friend (site) too. Did he do any real harm like actually steal someones money or did he just make everyone lose there erection over this potential trike so now he's worthy of banning. He did admit to being caught and even had the balls to start a thread about being "owned". Doesn't that count for anything? Now I see he has not replied, even before he was banned, in awhile. I think he actually may have been humiliated out of here before the ban. Maybe a little more CSIing was in store before the ultimate death penalty. Just my thoughts. Not being a donkey. Peace Rod

[jsimonh]

Do we know anything about this person? Like maybe he's a kid starving for attention and this might of been the place he came to to get it. So he lied to get attention and now he's lost this friend (site) too. Did he do any real harm like actually steal someones money or did he just make everyone lose there erection over this potential trike so now he's worthy of banning. He did admit to being caught and even had the balls to start a thread about being "owned". Doesn't that count for anything? Now I see he has not replied, even before he was banned, in awhile. I think he actually may have been humiliated out of here before the ban. Maybe a little more CSIing was in store before the ultimate death penalty. Just my thoughts. Not being a donkey. Peace Rod

I don't think a kid starving for attention would have tried to sell this fake trike to another board member. I agree with most of what you said but when he did that he crossed a HUGE line in my book.

It's a shame too. There aren't to many of us trikers in Oklahoma .

[Billy Golightly]

He had actually PM'ed OrangeCnty250R and tried to sell him the supposed Tiger 500. So, IMO its pretty serious. I can only think of one reason you'd try to sell something you dont own and thats to make a scam.

[Six Stroke]

I was suspicious when he said he did the backflip. When he casually said that he did the backflip. Unless you're on the crusty tour, there's nothing casual about it.

[ClayW]

LMAO! - NODZ'S

I knew this guy wasnt quite right.

[1985 200s]

Asking if orangecounty was still interested in buying his Tiger still violates no laws. Should of felt him out more to see if he actually would of tried to materialize a real transaction. He may have been thinking wow I could really get $3000 for a Tiger if I had one then proceded to try and find one real fast to make a buck off someone who had no idea what one would be worth. Probably not the scenario but who's to say. Would like to definatley know how old he was. I think age would play a major factor. Just my opinion. Peace Rod

[Wickedfinger]

Asking if orangecounty was still interested in buying his Tiger still violates no laws. Should of felt him out more to see if he actually would of tried to materialize a real transaction. He may have been thinking wow I could really get $3000 for a Tiger if I had one then proceded to try and find one real fast to make a buck off someone who had no idea what one would be worth. Probably not the scenario but who's to say. Would like to definatley know how old he was. I think age would play a major factor. Just my opinion. Peace Rod

deceit
n. dishonesty, fraudulent conduct, false statements made knowing them to be untrue, by which the liar intends to deceive a party receiving the statements and expects the party to believe and rely on them. This is a civil wrong (tort) giving rise to the right of a person to sue the deceiver if he/she reasonably relied on such dishonesty to the point of his/her injury.
See also: fraud misrepresentation

false pretenses
n. the crime of knowingly making untrue statements for the purpose of obtaining money or property fraudulently. This can range from claiming zircons are diamonds and turning back the odometer on a car, to falsely stating that a mine has been producing gold when it has not. It is one form of theft.
See also: fraud theft

[1985 200s]

Age? You or I would not do this nor would any other honest adult but a 12, 13, 14 year old might and think nothing of it. They should no better by that age if brought up right but not everyone steers there kid in the right direction. I just think if this was a child he should have been steered right and not banned. An adult by all means HISTORY.

[nouseforaname90]

I'm nearly 16 at the moment and I knew that this would be a bad thing to do whenever I was 10 years old. Even if he is a kid.. its no excuse. I'd be pretty ticked if I made a deal and the seller wanted half of the money ($1500 in orangecnty's case) right away.. then I never heard from him again..
We shouldn't have let it play out and see if he actually tried getting orangecnty to pay.. you have to stop it before it goes too far.. and it had already gone too far.

[Orangecnty250r]

Asking if orangecounty was still interested in buying his Tiger still violates no laws. Should of felt him out more to see if he actually would of tried to materialize a real transaction. He may have been thinking wow I could really get $3000 for a Tiger if I had one then proceded to try and find one real fast to make a buck off someone who had no idea what one would be worth. Probably not the scenario but who's to say. Would like to definatley know how old he was. I think age would play a major factor. Just my opinion. Peace Rod

I have to admit I am truly amazed of the mindset of some members but hey I guess thats what makes the world a more interesting place to live. once again I say for life!!!

[1985 200s]

I know not everyone agrees but, not knowing his history I don't think I would of made that decision. Not saying to actually got to the point of actually sending money just cautiously put the feelers out to see what was up. I wouldn't think orangecounty would just send the money, especially to a newbie, without some concrete proof of a straight deal. A teen with an alcoholic parent, no father, or any other number of things, left alone with internet access may do some pretty stupid things. Peace Rod

[smokinp]

[Unclediezel]

I was suspicious when he said he did the backflip. When he casually said that he did the backflip. Unless you're on the crusty tour, there's nothing casual about it.

I know not everyone agrees but, not knowing his history I don't think I would of made that decision. Not saying to actually got to the point of actually sending money just cautiously put the feelers out to see what was up. I wouldn't think orangecounty would just send the money, especially to a newbie, without some concrete proof of a straight deal. A teen with an alcoholic parent, no father, or any other number of things, left alone with internet access may do some pretty stupid things. Peace Rod

A casual back flip---???????????
We all stood around and laughed and goofed on the guy who had enough electrical gizmos to power the space shuttle "Professionally Engineered" to fit his ride--But this kid gets Judged based on a fake Backflip?
ORANGECOUNTY--Its not personal to you, Just in general--But Why in the name of all thats round would you even consider a three week member worthy of that kind of money without either checking him out---or exposing him "Flat out" for what he is---If you sent him 3000 in monopoly money and then called him out on it?

[Wickedfinger]

I truely believe in caveat emptor - but - it is not applicable in this situation. There was nothing to buy except for deceit and lies. As far as age goes - Be he 12 or 120 - I don't need that kind of crap on here and neither do any of the rest of our members. You guys deserve better content than this. Right now hes banned for life - his sarcastic pseudo-appology isn't a step in the right direction to reinstatement. If he wants back, he know how to contact the Admins. The truth is, he's probably joined up somewhere else right now, bashing this site, the admins, MOD's, and probably most of the rest of our members. Well let him - I only belong to this site, I don't care about whats said elsewhere.

[Howdy]

Age? You or I would not do this nor would any other honest adult but a 12, 13, 14 year old might and think nothing of it. They should no better by that age if brought up right but not everyone steers there kid in the right direction. I just think if this was a child he should have been steered right and not banned. An adult by all means HISTORY.

Registration Birthdate is April 22, 1985. That same date was was used for both usernames. I can't confirm it is correct, but being as the exact same date was used for both usernames, then I have to assume it is correct. Using the date of April 22, 1985 as a Birthdate and todays date is Feb, 20, 2006 that tells me he is 2 months away from being 21 years old. Thus he would be a legal adult. And yes this information was taken into consideration towards our actions.

I truely believe in caveat emptor - but - it is not applicable in this situation. There was nothing to buy except for deceit and lies. As far as age goes - Be he 12 or 120 - I don't need that kind of crap on here and neither do any of the rest of our members. You guys deserve better content than this. Right now hes banned for life - his sarcastic pseudo-appology isn't a step in the right direction to reinstatement. If he wants back, he know how to contact the Admins. The truth is, he's probably joined up somewhere else right now, bashing this site, the admins, MOD's, and probably most of the rest of our members. Well let him - I only belong to this site, I don't care about whats said elsewhere.

I whole heartedly agree, My main focus is 3WW and trying to protect our members / users. A lot of work and discussion goes on behind the scenes that most users don't know about. This is all done to try and improve and protect the rest of you guys & Gals. The main thing we get out of this hard work, is the knowing that we are doing everything we can to keep the forums very informative, Family Friendly, and scammer free.
Howdy