First Atc Build 110, 1983

[rally4x4racer]

I know - it is probably so obvious that no one even notices.. LOL I still can not believe it.

[thefox]

lol I'm not a 110 guy but clutch is on the wrong side of the engine .

[rally4x4racer]

nice shot fox - any idea how it happened?


(besides me drinking too much)

ps fox - i have some mag wheels for a 81 xs1100 - will they fit your bike?

[thefox]

I'm guessing you didn't see the arrow pointing forward on the parts diagram or you did what I would do and just started putting parts on the side of the engine that was facing you .

As for the wheels I am not sure but I already have an extra set somewhere from my parts bike.

[rally4x4racer]

seriously, the crank is installed backwards in that picture.

I did not realize it till I tried to mock up the side cover and it would not fit.

thats pretty bad, huh?

[thefox]

lol makes sence then. I was wondering how it fit on the wrong side!

[rally4x4racer]

i got my cyl back and am putting my rings on and assembling this thing (again)

but im lost on the rings

the oil rings ( bottom slot) - does the middle peice lock in or does it just go on? it is like a -_-_-_-_-/-_-_-_ with the forward slash being where it butts up - does it just but up or does one square snap over the other - seems like it just butts up.

and the top two rings - how the heck do I know which one goes in which slot? one is silver on the outside edge and one is black. the silver edged one might have a slight taper but the black one is wider. I am guessing the silver one goes on top but the dumb haynes says the tapered ring goes in the middle slot? so I am confused

( cuz the book also says a particular side goes up on the rings and it is marked with an initial from the manafacturer - and there are no marks....)

thanks for all the help


DONT MAKE ME SLAM ON MY BRAKES - MY SEAT IS NOT BOLTED DOWN!

[Vealmonkey]

Jef, The tapered ring is the second ring, the wider part of the taper at the bottom. The other ring is the top ring. There should be some kind of mark on the "top side" of the rings near where the end is. Look carefully for this, the mark will be on the top side. Don't forget to stagger the gaps.

[rally4x4racer]

Monkey! hey - there is seriously no marks - I even grabbed a sudco kit off the shelf to look for marks. I found the mark on those rings but not the ones that cam with the piston I am using.

you said the wider taper ( the edge with more taper goes toward the skirt on the second ring right? ( not that i can tell which side that is for certain) - if so that would put that ring right side up

and the top ring ( al black sharp edged) does it really matter? I can not tell a difference in the edges

Imma just slap it on there since there are no marks - whats the worst that could happen? premature failure?

gracias

[Vealmonkey]

If you put the rings in wrong places especially upside down it will push the oil out of the engine. That statement probably won't make sense until you see it happen. I forget the term. Do you have a magnifying glass? Put tthe widest edge at the bottom of the second groove. Just like a triangle, the widest part at the bottom and the point at the top.

[rally4x4racer]

I have not been able to look in the book yet VM I have to go thru some stuff for school first but heres some pix maybe you can make sense out of.

note the line - I am guessing that is the way it will sit when the cover is put on the block

the red circles is where I imagine the balls go. no clue - balls didnt come with it.

and then also there is a pic of the arm the way it is sitting in the flappy plate. ill do some studying on it as sson as I get a chance and hopefully I can figure out something.

[Vealmonkey]

Jef, there is a piece that you are missing that is a triangle with the 3 balls in it that fits between the two pieces that you have. Look into your extra parts box.

[rally4x4racer]

looks like I have been MIA for a bit. either way I am moving like molasses on this project. I ordered the parts that I needs VM - waiting on them to finsih the head (again, this time with new valve seal)

I did go ahead and strip the frame tho - good thing too because under the old paint there was a lot of rust. maybe my super thick clear coat will keep all that from happening. Stripped the tank and test for leaks

Ill prolly start putting bearings back in and try to find all those ballz to get the forks on and see if I can get this stupid old wheel to seal up since I took the tube out. the new tire I got is tubless - and i foresee a prob.

heres a few picture of my painting madness. I am open for suggestions on the graphix for the tank. ( figured I could use some airbrush practice)

[Vealmonkey]

Put the Honda decal with the stripes, but make honda in chrome foil and the striped in chrome and gold foil. I'm not a graphics designer, just get whatever decals you make in the shiny foil, maybe the Honda in gold foil and the stripes in red and blue foil. That's alot of shiny black paint there. Glad to hear your back working on it Jef.

[rally4x4racer]

the paint should be pretty tuff by now so im going to start putting it back together asap - i still need the bearing seals and im waiting on southern honda....

i was about to put the top end together last time i talked to you pat, and realized i put the valves in without putting the exhaust valve seal pieces in


I got some chrome wings. I might go there. - i think some hell fire figures ghosted in matching red would look good. theres not much room on the tank for graphix tho - so i may just slap some wings on it!

and go figure - I was working on the wheel today and got it all together and NO GO! that two piece rim and tubless tire is proving to be a pain. its shoooting air out the middle, and I have 8.8 grade hardware on there so tight it stripped one of the new bolts.
any suggestions?


he he look at what i found in the brakes! other than about two cups of brake dust and dirt.... can you see the pad linings lying there? lol - i had to soak the drum in acid forever to get some metal showing!!