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    YTM200BOY is offline All your base are belong to us???? Arm chair racerNew to the board
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    ill give *Edited* some advice that i was told with my problems..... buy a damn manual and read up on it i learned some new things i didnt have a clue what they were and im only 16. You'll get it going just like me and we will both have a good time dont give up man hang in there like me ride the wave of karma lol... karma pshhh lol... -Joe

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    im not gonna spend more money on somthing that may not run at all. i got this thing to see if it was an easy cheap fix, for a fun toy, but 2 weeks of messin with it is making me think its no longer worth it. thanks anyway.

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    well that is your loss, you do not sound like you are ready for it anyway
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    dude.... not ready? Why do I get the feeling you dont think much of me? Im already a desert rat here. I have a 1994 Ford Ranger prerunner Ive built myself. Ive riden many bikes, 3 wheelers, and quads before. But never owned one. This bike was giving to me free if I could get it to run, but im not going to waste anymore time OR money if I dont know it will run at all?

    That said, dont judge me. Please, just dont!

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    Who called you a desert rat??????------

    If it has compression, spark and fuel --it has to run---PERIOD.

    This is somthing Stupid that you're overlooking, Which probably isnt worth ditching the project.

    The worst feeling in the world is giving up on something like this, selling it to the kid up the street and watching him ride it past you 15 minutes later.
    Buy American! Unless your only option is a HARLEY.

    A customer walked in to my shop and Impatiently stated "My car doesnt start, Whats the problem?"I responded with a smile-"Yep that sounds like your problem alright"----

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    i once bought a tecate that had a pipe clogged up. that kicked my butt for a couple days.

    i do not think bad of you, i just do not think you have the ability to work on your own bike.

    air, fuel, and spark, that is what you need.
    simple things to look for
    good gas
    clogged pipe
    timing
    flooded crank case.

    i can kick start my 500r but if the case is flooded i have to pull if for 40' jsut to get it to fire off.
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    Alright 200x, I just dont like seeing silly little comment about myself posted thats all. Im starting to think its not getting enough spark. There IS a spark, but its not as much as I think it should be. Would the reed valve be something to look at? I can put my hand over the carb opening, and feel air push my hand a little, and feel a little vacume afterwards. I have plently of abilty to work on my own stuff... Im learning more about this engine with more input from you guys here. Thank you for getting me this far. I have friends here who throw me off too, cause I get different opinions from all of you, and them.

    Now... how can I check for a flooded crankcase / clogged pipe? As far as the pull start goes. I have a BIG hill near my house, that about 1/8th mile down hill. We ran it down that hill and it fired off, but had no power and died at the bottom. We tried twice. Ive lined up the flywheel on the crankcase by the marks, I know I have compression, I can smell fuel in the exhaust, and it has a little spark. I think I might have already ruled this out, but I want to make absloutly sure its stators because these units are not cheap at all!

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    Alright 200x, I just dont like seeing silly little comment about myself posted thats all. Im starting to think its not getting enough spark. There IS a spark, but its not as much as I think it should be. Would the reed valve be something to look at? I can put my hand over the carb opening, and feel air push my hand a little, and feel a little vacume afterwards. I have plently of abilty to work on my own stuff... Im learning more about this engine with more input from you guys here. Thank you for getting me this far. I have friends here who throw me off too, cause I get different opinions from all of you, and them.

    Now... how can I check for a flooded crankcase / clogged pipe? As far as the pull start goes. I have a BIG hill near my house, that about 1/8th mile down hill. We ran it down that hill and it fired off, but had no power and died at the bottom. We tried twice. Ive lined up the flywheel on the crankcase by the marks, I know I have compression, I can smell fuel in the exhaust, and it has a little spark. I think I might have already ruled this out, but I want to make absloutly sure its stators because these units are not cheap at all!

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    Loosen the exhaust pipe from the cylinder, --

    If it fires up the exhaust is clogged.
    If the reeds were sealing properly --there shouldnt be any air blowing BACK thru the carb----This can also indicate a clogged exhaust.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/two-stroke.htm
    Buy American! Unless your only option is a HARLEY.

    A customer walked in to my shop and Impatiently stated "My car doesnt start, Whats the problem?"I responded with a smile-"Yep that sounds like your problem alright"----

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclediezel
    Loosen the exhaust pipe from the cylinder, --

    If it fires up the exhaust is clogged.
    If the reeds were sealing properly --there shouldnt be any air blowing BACK thru the carb----This can also indicate a clogged exhaust.

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/two-stroke.htm
    Ok, I will go outside and give that a try right now... I will let you know the results...

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    Well... that made it fire once! LOL Still a no-go though. I pulled the reeds off to take a look and they are soaked in fuel. maybe it is flooded? Still has a weak spark. I have a meter, anybody know how I can test the stator/cdi/coil with it?

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