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  1. #31
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    Dec 2004
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    Baltimore, MD
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    The honda manual says to start with the clip in the middle slot of the needle and start with the air fuel mixture out 1 1\4 turns from being lightly seated. If someone turned the air fuel mixture screw down too hard, they could have ruined the seat where the needle contacts, and that is not good. But lets not assume the worst. Get one of the one gallon cans of carb dip that you can soak the carb in all night, after you have disassembled it. Take out the 2 screws that hold the choke plate in place and remove the choke plate assembly for cleaning also, don't lose or overtighten those 2 little screws when you are putting the carb back together. Get yourself 2 of those small fuel filters and install the filters inline on both of the fuel lines between the tank and the carb. Some people blow compressed air into the carb after cleaning, but I don't personally recommend it, you can lodge some small piece of dirt into a passage and make it impossible to come back out. Let the carb air dry for and hour or two and carefully reassemble your carb using your new parts. Take your time. Be very careful with the high and low speed jets and the needle seat, they are brass and can get stripped out very easily if you over tighten them. Your carb is potmetal and can strip easily so snug down all bolts but don't overtighten them either. Inspect the carb carefully with a magnifying glass for any clogged air passages. Also check the carb body for any kind of gouges on the inside of where the carb slide goes and make sure the carb slide fits in snugly, but doesn't bind either. Check your float and make sure it floats and doesn't have anykind of holes in it that would let if fill up with fuel. Let us know what happens after reassebly.

  2. #32
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
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    If you have a 1978-on model, you should have the Type II carb. You can tell if it's Type-II because the fuel bowl is round. The older Type I carbs have a rectangular bowl. The pilot or air screw (same thing, different terms) is on the edge of the carb, and the idle screw is more in the center. Just so you know which is which.

    Here's what my Clymer manual says for 1978-on specs:

    Model No. PB38A
    Main Jet No. 58
    Slow air jet 38
    Initial Pilot 1-3/4 turns out
    Needle Jet 4th groove
    Float Level 20mm

    Hope this helps. I know it doesn't match exactly with some of the other info you've gotten, but it gives you someplace to start, especially if you're going to rebuild.
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    God knows they're not looking to make any effort to do anything, never mind move their foot to shift. If there was something that dispensed Cheetos every time they shifted that might be a different story. Welcome to America, where the biggest is best and even fat people who are too lazy to shift can climb a mountain.

  3. #33
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    Mar 2005
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    Me and Some Kind of Jerk are rebuilding a 70, well actually its a 50-mini bike bottom end (kick start!) with the top end of the orginal 70, we kinda got lazy and its still not al the way together yet but, lol when it is we will let you know what we had to do. Im sure we'll have our share of problems too.. lol Good luck
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  4. #34
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Tennessee
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    It was just the stupid airfilter! It runs great without it. It still has some very black smoke though. I will rebuild the carb and see what happens.

  5. #35
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    Jun 2005
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    I still don't think it's the air filter. It's probably that the slight increase in air flow by taking out the filter made up for whatever is wrong with the carb. I bet the rebuild wiil take care of it. Let us know!
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    God knows they're not looking to make any effort to do anything, never mind move their foot to shift. If there was something that dispensed Cheetos every time they shifted that might be a different story. Welcome to America, where the biggest is best and even fat people who are too lazy to shift can climb a mountain.

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