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    No... don't use the spray can stuff.......
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    NO, it wont do a thing. Go and buy a bottle of cleaner. If you cant afford it, you really have picked up the wrong hobby. Riding and maintaining a bike cost money. As far as the bottle of cleaner goes, It will have a lid that you can unscrew and pour its entire contents into the gas tank. Pour it in there and rock the bike back and forth real good to mix it up. That way you wont have a concentrated pocket of cleaner. Man.
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    Alright, I will do that.

    As far as being able to afford this hobby, I definatley can, I just wasn't sure about which cleaner to use.

    If you think ATV's are an expensive hobby, try paintball. And not "play in the woods behind your house with a Tippmann 98 Custom" paintball. I am talking speedball as in go play indoor (sometimes) and spend $60 for a case of paint and $15 to get in and $10 for all-day-air. Plus $1500 on my setup/gear.

    EDIT: Just so you know, this isn't a rant/flame/arguing/whatever, just made me think about it. Also made me think about, many times, laying off paintball to do more 3-wheeling.

    Actually, does anybody on here play paintball?

    Thanks again Clay, I will definatly do the cleaner and anything else you guys recommend. I just got my UNI-filter in the mail and installed it. And am buying the cleaner/oil for it.

    Dave

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    Dave, you really have got to get some help with this. Many an ATC is ruined by something as simple as an air filter clamp left loose, the wrong oil, level of oil too low etc. etc. etc. I know you want to ride and I know your not sure how to fix it and believe me, once that SX is maintained and running right it will last years with just a simple air filter cleaning and an oil change. But you gotta get it to that point first, or you may lose it all together. Maybe someone on this board is close to you? This board is great help but if your starting from complete scratch your gonna need some help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECK
    Alright, I will do that.

    As far as being able to afford this hobby, I definatley can, I just wasn't sure about which cleaner to use.

    If you think ATV's are an expensive hobby, try paintball. And not "play in the woods behind your house with a Tippmann 98 Custom" paintball. I am talking speedball as in go play indoor (sometimes) and spend $60 for a case of paint and $15 to get in and $10 for all-day-air. Plus $1500 on my setup/gear.

    EDIT: Just so you know, this isn't a rant/flame/arguing/whatever, just made me think about it. Also made me think about, many times, laying off paintball to do more 3-wheeling.

    Actually, does anybody on here play paintball?

    Thanks again Clay, I will definatly do the cleaner and anything else you guys recommend. I just got my UNI-filter in the mail and installed it. And am buying the cleaner/oil for it.

    Dave

    I know what you mean by paintball being expensive. I used to be REALLY big into paintball before I got into 3 wheelers (as in playing 2 times a week), and I would be spending around $150-$200 a week on it. It was insane, and that doesn't even include the price of my gear. But I have to say.. 3 wheeling can add up just as fast as paintball.
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    I am just taking a guess at this too, but you say you put a new filter in it, might be time to rejet then or to adjust the air/fuel mixture screw. To rejet, you need to take the carb apart but the air/fuel mixture screw, all you do is find the screw on the side of the carb and turn it/ just play with the screw for a while, turn it in, turn it out, just play with it. I am not sure where this screw is on the 250sx' but someone here can tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 85hondaatc125m
    I am just taking a guess at this too, but you say you put a new filter in it, might be time to rejet then or to adjust the air/fuel mixture screw. To rejet, you need to take the carb apart but the air/fuel mixture screw, all you do is find the screw on the side of the carb and turn it/ just play with the screw for a while, turn it in, turn it out, just play with it. I am not sure where this screw is on the 250sx' but someone here can tell you.

    Are you kidding me?? He's tring to spray carb cleaner in his tank!!!!! This person knows very little about how an engine and carburetor works and you want him to possibly rejet and play with his airscrew?? It won't start... It's not that he changed the af and now it's missing or not idling smooth. Suggesting playing with things and offering advice to people who don't even know how to remove the carburetor or what each jets function is, is not helpful. His whole carb needs to be removed, every jet removed and cleaned spotless. Then the airscrew on the bottom of the carb needs to be lightly bottomed out and backed out about 1.5 turns for starters. Everything must be spotless and the airscrew/spring/washer/oring order must be correct.
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    Buy a can of SeaFoam. That stuff works awsome, pour it right into the tank, slosh it around, and ride it for a little bit if it will start, you will notice a good defference.
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    Don't worry, I am not going to mess with anything. I will have my father look at all of it and make sure it is all correct.

    He is coming up here tommorow to look at it and make sure everything is 100% correct, etc..

    And you're right Dirtcrasher, I most definatly do not know anything about this. That is why I am having someone who is experienced, not 16 years old and knows exactly what he is doing, take a look at it.

    Thanks for everything you guys have done so far and I really appreciate it.

    Dave

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    Wow, hah...looks like me and you had the same problem, only mine was on a 200x. The day before i drove it around perfectly fine. Next day, tried starting it about 50 times and nothing, than maybe the 60th time it backfired on me. So i took the carb out cleaned it one last time, put choke half way, changed my spark plug and it turned on like nothing ever happend.

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    im trying the exact same thing *Edited* did change oil put new plug in and clean out carb overnight and ill let *Edited* know if my popular ytm200ek lives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtcrasher
    Are you kidding me?? He's tring to spray carb cleaner in his tank!!!!! This person knows very little about how an engine and carburetor works and you want him to possibly rejet and play with his airscrew?? It won't start... It's not that he changed the af and now it's missing or not idling smooth. Suggesting playing with things and offering advice to people who don't even know how to remove the carburetor or what each jets function is, is not helpful. His whole carb needs to be removed, every jet removed and cleaned spotless. Then the airscrew on the bottom of the carb needs to be lightly bottomed out and backed out about 1.5 turns for starters. Everything must be spotless and the airscrew/spring/washer/oring order must be correct.
    If he has put a new air filter on this may work, it worked for me, I got a new air filter, and then it just wouldnt start, my dad said turn the air/fuel mixture screw out 1 turn, and sure enough, it started. So try not to get to angry , im just trying to help like everyone else.oh, and turning the air/fuel mixture screw isnt hard, you dont have to take anything apart, it is on the outside of the carb.
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    I have the new Uni-Filter in, new PRM-ATV Standard Grab Bar, new battery, GUMOUT (pour in cleaner, just like you guys said, it was $6) and a few cool stickers.

    I also Armor-All'ed the whole body, lights, seat, etc...

    It is all very clean now and the electric start works great, everything is in 100% working order and it has been checked over by the original owner (father).

    So I will have pics. up soon, I am having the gas tank re-painted and new decals put on.

    Thanks guys

    Dave

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