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    100 Percent BS, like stated above I can try and help even though im in nada. Anything you need I can try and find,

    like said so many times, its the operator not the machine!

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    Lemme know if you se anything that needs to be corrected. I reviewed it twice so it should be good to go

    Congressman Santorum:
    My Name is Nathan Carey. I am a Student of Tunkhannock Area High School and am an Active ATV rider, but I dont like just any ATV, I ride on 3 wheels. The CPSC is trying to pass legislation to where 3 wheeled ATV's "use" is banned. One direct quote from them states "The Commission finds that the public's need for three-wheeled ATVs (given the continued availability of four-wheeled ATVs) is small and that the effect of this rule on the cost, utility, and availability of three-wheeled ATVs will also be small." This however is quite untrue and on one website we have over 7,000 members and add many each day (at the end of this write-up is my sources for everything sir). Thousands of us feel that our right to even choose what we want to ride is trying to taken away. We are rallying other websites as well to join us in our fight, but we need help from higher people. That is why we are all writing to our Senators and Representatives to try and fight the injustice being put upon us. 20 years ago they stopped the manufacturing of the trike and yet to this day they have survived and we want them to comtinue to thrive. All that I am asking sir is that if this bill ever comes out of committee for a vote,that you ask for a committee to do an investigation into the "truth" which the CPSC likes to tell people. I ask of you to look at this issue with open eyes and see the real facts and truths. One of the many facts is that with manditory training courses longer than the finite time required now, people of all ages would be alot safer. There is no need to take anything away or to ban them, simple manditory training courses would safice. Thank You for your time.
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    Here is both parts of the CPSC report currently out http://www.cpsc.gov/LIBRARY/FOIA/FOI...ief/ATVpt1.pdf http://www.cpsc.gov/LIBRARY/FOIA/FOI...ief/ATVpt2.pdf

    I have also sent a copy to our two Senators as well.
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    Wow this is pretty bad!!! I'll right a letter to my senator as well!!! We need to kick this thing in the teeth before it bites us.
    I don't want to have to run from the trail patrol every time I hop on my 3 wheeler, it would get to be an annoyance......hahaha
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    You know they make it sound like, it won't effect many people because they're not many out there....then why the need to ban them if they arn't many out thier. I half wonder if this will even be taken seriously. Freakin yuppies. bunch mothers sitting around who have nothing better to do than ponder what danger can we prevent next. GEEZE LETS FREAKIN BAN ALL METAL OBJECTS!!!! THAT"LL FIX IT!!! ARGGGH!!!
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    CPSC is trying too put us all in straight jackets far as the atv atc riding goes. then next will be the riding area's as its not needed in their eyes! I agree and have said for yrs mandatory training and license. If they make it mandatory that any rider even on private ground under a certain age must have a certificate or liscense. this would solve 75% or more of the accidents they are trying too prevent. Indiana did a program similar with hunting liscenses and it has really dropped the amount of injuries caused by inexperience. I hated at first but after I took the course with a young'in then I realized how important this was and what a good idea. NOw if born after a certain date think its june of 1986 then you must have a certificate too hunt or participate in outdoor activities similar too hunting.this is what we need but on a national level so they can quit worring about us trikers Just my 2 cents Dale
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    yep i dont doubt it *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* the commy basterds!!!!!
    like its there fault someone gets hurt !!!
    try teaching instead of taking !!!
    you can walk out side fall in a hole and get hurt !!
    what next !!!

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    im in for the fight against the cpsc....if we all work together we might be able to beat this thing! also couldnt we start with a online petition to go with the letters
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    right when i finallly get a great trike, they want to take it away...how bout this...if your 400ex can beat my 250R, you win..lol
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    hey if you read te whole thing, they aren't trying to take whats already there, just stop foreign markets from geting their 3 wheelers through to us. Including three wheeled golf carts.
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    I always wondered why there is a group of people out there(cpsc) that actually go out and ban things for MY own good. I mean is it any of these peoples business what I do. Why do they care about us so much? They don't have any business trying to tell me what I can and can't do in my life. Wtf.

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    Here's links to find who your congressman and senator are and send them a message. If we could get a standardized letter with correct grammar and professionally written, then it would be easy to copy and paste. Also if we could include in the signature part (REGISTERED VOTER) it might have a little more impact.

    I'm talking friends, family and anyone else you can think of. With their PERMISSION of course.

    Even if you have to use illegal immigrants names then go for it! (Jokingly)

    http://www.house.gov/writerep/

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
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    Quote Originally Posted by hot
    It is exactly like guns. You can't buy new TEC-9's anymore but if you own them, you can use them.
    The thing that I am afraid of is there will be the possibility of banning the "use" of trikes on any federal land. National forest's, BLM lands.
    And far as state owned land, federal govt can override state laws.
    You can thank president Lincoln for that.
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    Anyone know of a good ATV lobbying firm in the Washington DC area? It takes money to stop a bill from passing. And theres no guarantee.
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    If you need a lobbyist , you could probably get Jack Abramoff pretty cheap these days.

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    Everybody nees to write or call their senator or congressman, but focus on the main issue. What you say can do great damage if you are not smart about it. As somebody already mentioned, be respectful and use correct spelling and grammer. If you write like an inbred hick, your letter carries little weight. 2nd is its best to avoid mentioning your age if you are very young unless its helps make the case. In their eyes, your opinion doesnt matter if you cant vote. An example where using your age might be used - "I am 14 years old, 6'2" and weigh 210lbs and I feel that for me to be restricted to a 90cc quad is downright dangerous". Restrictions based on age make no sense, and recommendations should be based on rider body size and machine weight. If they were realistic, people might take them seriously. There is no data that supports child fatalities have anything to do with speed or engine size. Most involve a small child ending up under a very heavy machine, often at a very low rate of speed.
    3rd NEVER, EVER Start attacking other forms of related off road riding, such as quads or dirt bikes. Believe me, CPSC would love to ban then all, and the last thing they need is YOU making the case for it. We need their help, and we wont get it by trying to use them as a decoy, which will not work anyways. The CPSC had enough manpower to attack all forms of offroading at the same time.
    4th - "Incremetalism" Remember this word. Its how they work. Ban things a little at a time. They propose taking everything, you "compromise" and give them half, until they take enough halves to have it all. Especially those of you who "wouldnt mind" licensing, registrations, mandatory insurance, etc.
    5th, concentrate on the flawed statiticstic. ATV accidents are rising only because the number of people using them has risen exponentially. The actual number of accidents per rider has steadily declined. These are old statitics but give you the idea. In 1990 150,000 new ATVs were sold. In 2001 825,000 new ATVs were sold. You would expect accidents to rise 660% during that time when in fact they had doubled. New staitistics Im sure can be found on internet searches. I cant remember the bicycle statictics, but I do remember that the number of peopel killed in one year on a bicycle was about the same as the last 20 years combined on ATVs.

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