Drag racing classes for TF07?

[Billy Golightly]

Well if you wanna get technical, my 500 isn't a hybrid since its still running the stock frame, and engine But I won't play that game.

[seadoo650]

The two classes were set up with simplicity in mind. Everyone wanted a billion classes and then just to keep it the same as last year. With the division into two classes, the idea was to seperate the guys who put all year long and every paycheck into their bike to be the FASTEST. Now I see alot of guys talking about altering their bike to fit into the general class. I thought these same guys wanted to content for bragging rights as top dog. If you take a trike that is a serious contender for the unlimited class and win the general class then you'll only be top dog in a class of puppies. It seems like alot of the guys that were talking big about being able to keep up and beat the big 500's were'nt really serious. Billy, looks like the trophy is yours again. C'mon guys, all things take trial and error. General class is just that, your non-serious but man that drag racing is sure fun kinda racer and the unlimited class is for the "wing clipper crew", "ride red die-hards", and "green booger boys". Don't take offense guys, I've heard all these terms since the last drags and they are not ment to offend.

Dale. I thought you wanted to run with the big boys? Show-em what a 20-some year old stock bike would do.

Ronnie, I know you can run with the big dogs....AND WIN. Do ya wanna miss that?

Cory, Not sure what you are running but I heard it was fast. Thought you would be a contender for the unlimited class?

Raffa, C'MON????

O.S., Do you even have a trike?

[TimSr]

Maybe we need a team of lawyers to decide the fate of a couple trophies. This is why I opposed multiple classes to begin with. The guys who want the specific set of rules the most are usually the first ones to try to manipulate the loopholes in those rules to run in a class in which they are overqualified for. The honorable way to eliminate competition is with a faster ride, not a laywer and a rulebook!

[OldSchoolin86]

Time is a huge issue.For a first time drag race class structure,this can be simple and effective.Basically this way takes the really big trikes and puts them in a class.This leaves a much better chance for the average trike to run with more comparable machines.

At least be honest about it, there's no chance for the average guy here. If you want a modified stock class and open mod then call it what it is.

Seems like most people wanted a 4 stroke class and a 2 stroke class and, an open class...........but to add this into the time factor with 4 classes with double elims would be unreal to accomplish.

WAY over complicated!!! Just 3 classes, stock (with a few minor mods allowed), modified stock and an open mod class. Simple and doable. Still waiting on a practical answer to why this is not possible.

We can easily run 9 drag classes. All we have to do is line up each entire class and run them at the same time, and it will be just like the motocross. I didnt create 9 MX classes to make everybody happy. We started with 4 classes, and slowly expanded to nine over 4 years to make ME happy. By the way, everybody is NOT happy. People still endlessly complain.

Come on Tim, I think we all know that you'll never make everyone happy but this is way easier to do then you guys are making it out to be. What's so hard about 3 classes and why is it so bad to just have that 3rd class so a lot more people can enjoy themselves???

Now I see alot of guys talking about altering their bike to fit into the general class..........you'll only be top dog in a class of puppies.

It's just reality! The classes are clearly structured so that the almost extreme machines will be in one class and the totally extreme in the other.

O.S., Do you even have a trike?

I'm glad you asked, no I don't. I've been to a few TF's now and the general theme has been just for us to get together and have a good time. Now that it's more of an organized event it seems that we're forgetting a little bit of that (not much, just a little). I don't have a trike and that alone should show that I'm not out to gain anything for myself, I'm not out to set rules like +4" swingers just so I can fit my machine in a class.

[seadoo650]

At least be honest about it, there's no chance for the average guy here. If you want a modified stock class and open mod then call it what it is.

WAY over complicated!!! Just 3 classes, stock (with a few minor mods allowed), modified stock and an open mod class. Simple and doable. Still waiting on a practical answer to why this is not possible.

Come on Tim, I think we all know that you'll never make everyone happy but this is way easier to do then you guys are making it out to be. What's so hard about 3 classes and why is it so bad to just have that 3rd class so a lot more people can enjoy themselves???


It's just reality! The classes are clearly structured so that the almost extreme machines will be in one class and the totally extreme in the other.

I'm glad you asked, no I don't. I've been to a few TF's now and the general theme has been just for us to get together and have a good time. Now that it's more of an organized event it seems that we're forgetting a little bit of that (not much, just a little). I don't have a trike and that alone should show that I'm not out to gain anything for myself, I'm not out to set rules like +4" swingers just so I can fit my machine in a class.

As for trying to set the rules to fit my machine in a certain class. I am not even running in the drags. If you are refering to the wifes big 'ol 200x it has a plus 2 swinger. Also, I hav'nt really heard too many "everage guys" here do all the complaining. I did mostly at first but realizing I'm in it just for fun I could care less about a trophy.

[TimSr]

Come on Tim, I think we all know that you'll never make everyone happy but this is way easier to do then you guys are making it out to be. What's so hard about 3 classes and why is it so bad to just have that 3rd class so a lot more people can enjoy themselves???

Gee, I dont know whats so hard about it. Apparenty Im not very bright. It only took, what, 2- 2 1/2 hours to run through one class of 13 riders last year? How much longer could two or three more classes possibly take? A third class does not allow more people to enjoy themselves, unless "people" is defined as only those who are there for a trophy. Open grudge match, non-trophy drags had participation in the 90% and above range. I dont want to see those people get pushed to the curb to make room for the trophy hounds, which are not a majority.

[OldSchoolin86]

As for trying to set the rules to fit my machine in a certain class. I am not even running in the drags. If you are refering to the wifes big 'ol 200x it has a plus 2 swinger. Also, I hav'nt really heard too many "everage guys" here do all the complaining. I did mostly at first but realizing I'm in it just for fun I could care less about a trophy.

I never mentioned your wife or a trophy............

Gee, I dont know whats so hard about it. Apparenty Im not very bright. It only took, what, 2- 2 1/2 hours to run through one class of 13 riders last year? How much longer could two or three more classes possibly take? A third class does not allow more people to enjoy themselves, unless "people" is defined as only those who are there for a trophy. Open grudge match, non-trophy drags had participation in the 90% and above range. I dont want to see those people get pushed to the curb to make room for the trophy hounds, which are not a majority.

Okay Tim, you and I are BOTH too thick headed for good debate (as we've learned in the past) but just for arguments sake what's so hard about this? Lets say you have single eliminations for the 2 lower classes and double eliminations for the open class. Assume a number like 16 riders per class. If it took 5 minutes per run that would be 1 hour and 15 minutes each. I can't think of a viable reason it would take 5 minutes a run but if it did that would be 2.5 hours for the first 2 classes. Start the event around 4 and you now have 2.5 hours for the first 2 classes and 2.5 hours for the open class. With good organization this should be a very reachable goal with time to spare.

If you can't see how that 3rd class will help people enjoy themselves then I don't know what to tell you. The extra classes sure seem to help people enjoy themselves in the MX races.

[Bryan Raffa]

Im Coming Rick , BIG DOG's RUFF,RUFF,RUFF
I built my bike for one thing TO GO FAST! and Prove Yamaha's are fast Too!

(The honorable way to eliminate competition is with a faster ride)

As for a trophy I could care less, The amount of money in this trike the memorys and the satisfaction are plenty enough!

[erectordale]

[QUOTE=seadoo650]
Dale. I thought you wanted to run with the big boys? Show-em what a 20-some year old stock bike would do.

I'm not complaining ! I'm thinking of the other guys I like seeing everyone have fun. Example a stock 250r against the Tiger 500 wouldn't seem like a fair race. I will let you guys decide what class you put me in and thats where I will run Since the 500 is running correctly I know what it will do and the heavy modded machines don't scare me.

My only request is maybe a little early we let the little guys ( kids under 14 )have their turn racing among themselves. even if we can muster up a youth drag trophy that would be great. I get more thrill out of this than racing myself

[Louis Mielke]

Melt the darn trophy down.

Better yet screw the official drags.

I'm starting an outlaw drag class.
Run what you brung, put up or shut up. NO CRY BABIES ALLOWED!
We run after the "official drags are over" no trophy, just haspin dirt, blood and tears

[Billy Golightly]

I got an idea, How about we all just draw straws for the trophy and leave the three-wheelers home in the garage! Everything will be perfectly fair and square then and we wont have the hassle of bracket racing!

[TimSr]

I got an idea, How about we all just draw straws for the trophy and leave the three-wheelers home in the garage! Everything will be perfectly fair and square then and we wont have the hassle of bracket racing!

I say we charge $20 to race like every other place, and then we can buy everyone a trophy!

[seadoo650]

"I'm not out to set rules like +4" swingers just so I can fit my machine in a class."

You said this and you know who set the rules. What do ya mean? Do you think we have an alterior (sp?) motive?

[Mosh]

I say we charge $20 to race like every other place, and then we can buy everyone a trophy!

like a big baby bottle?????

[Bryan Raffa]

Ill send ya $20 hurry up and send it out so i can get some picks up on the board before anyone else,,, LOL