I use the clutch most of the time. But, if I'm trying to power out of a turn and I'm at an awkward position or I'm racing standing up, I don't use it.
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I use the clutch most of the time. But, if I'm trying to power out of a turn and I'm at an awkward position or I'm racing standing up, I don't use it.
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Always use the cluth.
DON"T BE LAZY..save your clutch.
Is it good to use engine breaking to slow down on a two stroke?
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I always use my clutch, upshifting or downshifting. I've been into way to many motors that have excess tranny wear or bent forks because of not using the clutch. Besides, it's much cheaper to replace clutch disks. As far as using engine braking to slow down on a two stroke. I personally try not to. People can disagree with me if they want but I don't think the engine gets enough lubrication if you do this. Think about it, the engine is suddenly spinning at high rpm but is only drawing fuel from the idle circuit of the carb, hence not much oil. I don't know, maybe I'm paranoid.
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I do not always use the clutch BUT... you should. I will recommend that you use the clutch when down shifting (I do) and to let off the gas when upshifting so you are not "speedshifting". It could bend a shift fork.
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Ya know what?? I am yet to find a bent shift fork..... All I ever find is worn or rounded lugs/dogs on the gears and the shift mechanism on the drum gets rounded also in beat motors. I do "think" that letting off the gas when upshifting is a good thing and about the same thing a clutch does.
EDIT - I CANNOT do a long distance wheelie if I use the clutch, I have to upshift clutchless......
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it is called speed shifting it is easy to go up in gears but it is harder to down shift how u do a long as wheelie with out droping the front
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It aint gonna hurt your clutch, it's gonna put the wear directly on your tranny. The reasons truckers do thid is because most rigs run an unsynchronized trans, meaning you haven to double clutch to get your gears to spin appropriatly to mesh.Originally Posted by edog
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Revmatching. I dont use clutch on my bikes unless im puttin.
You dont have time to clutch in a race.
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this is stupid, if there is a cluch on a bike it is supposed to be used, if there is a clutch in a car you use it, imagine driving a car that has a clutch and not using it...
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and the reason they don't have to use the clutch in a race is that they don't care and they can replace the motor after each race....
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[QUOTE=factoryX;549140]this is stupid, if there is a cluch on a bike it is supposed to be used, if there is a clutch in a car you use it, imagine driving a car that has a clutch and not using it...[/QUOTE
No, it's not stupid.....
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You cannot compare an automobile to a motorcycle transmission. The engagement and locking mechanism are completely different. Most auto trannies have helical cut gears with synchros which is nothing like an ATC or MX tranny.
I will agree that using the clutch will lessen the wear on some transmission parts but I do not believe it is an absolute essential when shifting. However, you need to let off the gas a bit when shifting to avoid binding. All your really doing is allowing the gears to relax a bit so they can mesh with the mating adjacent gear, thats all folks....
To each his own.... But, lets race? You use your clutch and I won't. I can go so much faster without using the clutch and I probably use it 50% or less of the time. I've been riding for 25 years and I have never stripped a gear or bent a shifting fork and have ridden the same way since I learned to ride. Or in the case of a long distance wheelie, if you pull in the clutch you lose the drive from the engine and the front end drops. Then most people overcompensate and give it too much gas to get it back up again. I yank it up in 2nd, back off a bit and run through the gears without the clutch.
The only damage I have found was on machines I didn't ruin myself. That damage was from power shifting (not letting off the gas) or popping out of gear because a thrust washer was missing or something wasn't assembled correctly.
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Why would'nt you use it?
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I dont use it unless Im starting or stopping, or going real slow. It wont break the bike if you rev match- this is where you let off the gas to where you match the next gear, you wont hear a CLANK if you do it right. You dont just throw it into the next gear.
Like I said, If Im just cruizing, or taking it easy, I clutch. If Im ALL out gettin it on, I rev match. My tranny looks just fine. And to hear these guys that have been riding and racing for years without issue, I am confident I will not change my riding style.
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of course you should use the clutch, just like anything that comes manual, car,truck,motorcycle, or w/e its there to shift with..
now lots of people do it with no clutch but thats mainly for drag racing, if you dont clutch, it its a guarantee that it will wear the components out faster, and thats on any trans. there is a magic point on anything though where it falls right into gear with no problems or stress but its impossible to hit that certian rpm everytime.
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i race, and race hard. ive ran alot of machines and never had one problem from a trans from not using a clutch. i mean i still use it alot of the times but somtimes i just dont. im not jamming the gears or anything just getting the rpm's right and pop it into gear. atc's and bikes such as race models like a 250r or crf 450r have better trany's that can stand that abuse better. im not saying its good but its not the end of the world and i have never ever had a problem with it. i dont see why people think its so bad to not use the clutch all the time?
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