Dude, nice pics and I think its awesome that your out there running with the brand new quads. I dont think I would be able to do that, keep at it man!!!
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Dude, nice pics and I think its awesome that your out there running with the brand new quads. I dont think I would be able to do that, keep at it man!!!
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For your first time on a new trike that's not bad.......
Just remember those corners are your biggest advantage (especially with an ST kit or whatever you have) so try and make use of them!!!! You have to hang off the side of that thing like a monkey through those corners!!! And if you think your not gonna be able to keep it on the track, MORE GAS!!!
Maybe ask Coeshow for some tips, I'm sure he has a few! If you look at those pics of the 80's flat trackers they basically had one knee over the side and the rest of their body was hanging off the other side hahahaha
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i'm pretty far off to the side on this one: http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/a...7&d=1159122269
and this one:
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/a...2&d=1159122143
But yeah... I can do better.
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Originally Posted by Chevy200s
Dude, nice pics and I think its awesome that your out there running with the brand new quads. I dont think I would be able to do that, keep at it man!!!
Yeah but crashing the only threewheeler amongst 35-40 quads has a certain stigma about it
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sweet... looks like a kick in da azz
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You looked great out there Billy! Looks like the only thing you really need to be competitive is more power. Where's that 500?!!
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I think that motor has plenty of power, its just me getting a customed to using itI just have got to do like you guys were saying and stay on the throttle through the turn. I was letting off way early, especially on turn one. Its kind of weird, its like a 90degree turn that goes into a more gradual arc back around. Its not a perfect oval. Regardless I think I can still hit the corners faster with some more practice. The quad guys on ATV florida sure are complainin about the surface being abraisive on tires, one guys said he burnt a pair of american racers for the rear that had 2 races before hand on them
I don't know when I'll get to race again but hopefully I'll be able to take the experience I got from this and apply it to that. It did seem like everytime we got out there and I was just starting to get comfortable it was the final lap. I guess thats how it goes though.
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Great job Billy going out there and racing againest those quads.Like they say practice makes perfect. Keep practicing and go out there and win a race.
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I think that motor has plenty of power, its just me getting a customed to using it
I don't know when I'll get to race again but hopefully I'll be able to take the experience I got from this and apply it to that. It did seem like everytime we got out there and I was just starting to get comfortable it was the final lap. I guess thats how it goes though.
I was thinking that it looked a little off shape from watching the videos. You sure look good coming out of the corners. Practice makes perfect. Wait till you run on banked turns like our track. You'll love that!
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I understand all the looks and comments you get, and all the respect from the other riders. Thats all we have ever gotten. Personally Ive always thought the "but the quad riders will be mean to me...." excuse was just a cop out for armchair racers with no nads! They will remember you more easily next time, and youll find some new friends for life, and some fellow racers who actually race. If you get a couple other trikers to join you, consider yourself really blessed, as I do.
As for machine mods, tech tips, and all that stuff, all I can say is keep on riding, and the ideas will come to you, and your skills will continue to improve. 99% of the suggested mods, tips, and secret hardware I see batted around would be much better spent of riding lessons and practice. You cant learn to race from reading text, and you cant buy hardware to compensate for unpolished technique. Go ride, have fun with it, and make little hardware "adjustments" along the way. You did super, and your best improvements in lap times will come with more seat time. Also, as much as we hate to admit it on a 3 wheeler site, when you get beyond straight line racing, trikes are at a serious disadvantage to quads, so you are starting at a disadvantage, and running against people who most likely have a lot more experience, so take heart in the fact that you had the guts to show up and run, when most people take refuge in an armchair and talk about it!
Youve always had my respect, so to me this just confirms once again that my respect goes where its warranted. Ride on!
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Thanks Tim, Derreck, everyone else. My only regret is that the track these guys normally run out wont allow me. If it did I'd be able to race every weekend, I could get good pretty quick that way
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i gatta find a place to race flattrack. Billy - heres what i do around turns. maybe itll help... say your making a sharp left turn, i cut the front wheel to the left, and lean obviously, but my right foot would be about 2 inches away from the edge of the right side of the seat, this is WELL pushing the rear tires out, and spinning them, ill hold it full throttle, when you feel the rear end coming around a bit you want to cut the front tire to the RIGHT so it doesnt try to make you flip, and you drift to the side. from then on its throttle controlled, and by leaning. using that technique you can make a large U shaped turn fairly well
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Nice job Billy, from my experience just staying on the bike for the first race is a big plus. I've seen so many guys come out and roll it their first race from lack of experience. Heres a few more tips to consider.
If you have someone in the stands with you bring a stop watch and have them get your times along with the fastest guys lap times, you can even break it down further and do your corner times but if you know where you stand you will know you need to push it more next time out and you will think about that while your racing. I wouln't be to worried about winning, rather try to keep inproving your lap times. I did that this year and I ended up winning 4 of my 8 to 10 races we ran.
Gearing is key for oval racing, what I do is run a tall enuff gear where I can hold it wide open in 5th in the corners and still be able to make it slide. With that track being as tacky as it was probably wasn't the best first track to race on. Our track gets like that at the end of the night and its definatly a handfull but I prefer tight tracks over loose tracks.
Tire pressure is also a huge factor, you want stager in your rear tires, that will only help you get around the corners easyer.
Keep notes on each track for lap times, tire pressure, ect.
Once you get used to it and can commit to the corner your lap times will improve imensly. If your sliding the corners you should only be off the gas long enuff for the rear end to start its slide and thats only a blip of the throttle once your set up right. If your gearing is right on you will feel it, go into the corner hot, let off for a split second and the rear will want to keep going causing a slide then right back into WOT all the way around the corner.
From the video that definatly looks like a very fast track, my best times on a banked 1/4 are 16 seconds but I know I've got room for improvement with gearing.
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Thanks Jim. I'm running 15/40 gearing right now, which with those tiny little tires felt about right. I could have definetly pulled a gear higher in the corners then I was taking if I could have felt like I would be able to stay on it going around. I did kind of notice during the LCQ like you were saying, it seems as if the faster you come into the corner the easier it is to actually break it loose. Makes sense, more momentum. I actually at one point till I shifted posistions was having a little bit of a problem with the front wheel pushing. I hadn't had that happen before. The rear tires I was running 12psi on the outside and 8.5 on the inside.
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