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  1. #31
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    Is the oring on the airscrew and adjusted right? Is the choke assembled right with it's sealing ring (if it has one). If your unsure that this carb is perfect, post in classified for a good used one or EBAY, can't run ya more than 25$.
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    traxxasx is offline Alligator sized brain can't spell you correctly. Arm chair racerRoostin Away
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    Take your jets out and hold them to the light to see if there clogged, the sun works best. If you see threw them your good if you dont theres your problem. Just cause the inside of your carb is clean doesent mean that a jet couldent be clogged. Atleast buy a rebuild kit off ebay.
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    So you say you used the spray carb cleaner to clean it out or the gallon type? My atv wouldn't idle and had been sitting around for a year, I tried that and it still didn't idle so I went and got some of that berry mans c/c in a gallon and dumped the metal parts only (sex it eats the rubber) and I put it back for the third time. Sure enough it runs like a top. Take ALL the parts off of it especially the jets if you can (sometimes they are pressed in though) and dunk it in there and the pieces seperately for around 30 minutes and you will see the difference if you have deposits in there. If you just use air to blow through the passages you may just be fanning a little piece of dirt or varnish thats captured in there. That spray cleaner evaporates too fast to loosen up the big stuff without help of a toothbrush or something similar most of the time. Thats just for surface deposits. If you go and buy one off eGay just be sure the guy knows how to clean it and has cleaned it or you may just end up with a dirtier carb than yours and thats why he is selling it in the first place.

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    rassagmc is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    hey, im back. just to answer your questions , i know the jets clean, and ive used both the spray can and the gallon jug stuff with only the metal parts. ive been watching ebay but haven't come across one yet that's in my price range. thanks!
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    rassagmc is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    i was just screwing around with it to see if it would start and i actually got it to. ihave the air box and air hose off so that the intake on the carb is showing. well, i put my hand over the end of it to feel the suction, pulled the starter a few times, and it started up. i then took my hand away, revved it up and then it bogged out. i tryed it a second time, pulled it a few times, nothing. put my hand over it , pulled it again and it started right up but bogged out when i took my hand away. what does this mean?
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    Put your airbox back on with a clean air filter. Make sure you get the boot on all the way on the carb so you won't have a leak.

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    Missing an airfilter , In itself , is more than enough to lean out your fuel to non running status. If putting the airbox and filter back dont cure the situation, look for an air leak, Head and jug gaskets, around the reed cage, carb joints. Then the choke valve cable tension, Are you using premix, or the autoluber. If using premix, remove the oil hose from the carb and cap the nipple on the carb. if the pump isnt injecting oil, its injecting air which is a NO-NO. Last but often overlooked can be crankshaft seals, Check the transmission oil for fuel contamination, and pull off the rope starter and check behind the rotor for signs of Engine oil.
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    Placing your hand over the end of the carb causes it to suck harder. So, since it fired up when you were blocking it with your hand, that tells me that under normal circumstances (air box hose on, no hand) it is not able to draw the fuel into the cylinder. Something's not sealed correctly or there is one h3ll of a mean blockage in the carb (although I am beginning to think it's not the carb, that's probably the cleanest carb this side of the Mississippi as many times as you've cleaned it).

    Follow Uncle's advice and get an air filter on there... it could be that simple. By the way, don't ever ride it without the airbox, hose and filter... I suggested removing it just to troubleshoot.

    Keep after it, you'll get it and you'll know that much more about your ride. Chasing a problem like this one can teach you alot... patience being one of those things... lol. I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say we learned by doing just what you are doing now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargon2112
    Keep after it, you'll get it and you'll know that much more about your ride. Chasing a problem like this one can teach you alot... patience being one of those things... lol. I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say we learned by doing just what you are doing now.
    There is no shortage of knowledge here on the boards, If you follow advice, and actually try-(Unlike some one who hasnt been around in a while- ) There is nothing that goes Unfixed.Its not uncommon to see full blown arguments between
    the more experienced members( Although they prefer to call them Disagreements)about the best way to fix, or approach a situation. Its all part of the process, and if you take in everything that your advised and THINK about whats in front of you, It ALWAYS works out. Im an OLD GUY, who up until a year ago would never consider taking advise from a fifteen year old, And every day here I realize more and more how Wrong I was. Just food for thought........This is the place to be.
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    rassagmc is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    thanks guys, for all the help! i'll try hard to get this SOB runnin if it takes me all winter. to tell you the truth, when i first got this thing, i didn't know a damn thing about it, but as i worked on it, and replaced some parts, i have learned alot more than i thought i would! i might just take this trike down to my friends house because he is pretty smart about this stuff, but i have'nt had a chance to even show it to him yet. anyway, thanks again!!!!!!!!!!
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