Here is the right breakdown for you http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit...ame~ATC110.asp
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Here is the right breakdown for you http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit...ame~ATC110.asp
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Ok, I didn't know the needle went all the way to the main jet. But it does show a Needle JET that goes in the carb, then the jet holder, then the main jet. All in the same hole in the carb.
I'm not talking about the Jet Needle that is in the slide. I know its confusing but one jet is referred to as the NEEDLE JET, and the needle that is in the slide is referred to as the JET NEEDLE.
The NEEDLE JET would be the first thing the JET NEEDLE (in slide) will pass through according to the diagram.
The first jet in the MAIN JET lineup is the Needle Jet. This is the one that I think is not in there. Like I said, the new carb kit came with one, but I didn't find the original Needle JET that is supposed to be there according the Haynes Manual atc110 carb schematic/diagram.
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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Jet labeled #2 in that diagram right under the float is the one I am saying that is not in my carb. I'm not 100% sure but I will find out tomorrow hopefully.
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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If that needle jets not in there the jet needle couldnt meter any fuel so I bet that would be it.Most 2 stroke carbs just have the main jet and the jet needle slides in it or pretty close to it.
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check your compression......my110 was running great after i did a rebuild
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82 atc200 SOLD
82 atc185s- In pieces in the desert somewhere
83 atc185s- thrashed and left in texas somewhere
83 atc110 in pieces in the desert somewhere
83 trimoto 175- Clutch exploded and almost took off my foot
1987 CBR600F hurricane- Parted and sold
1982 Yamaha Seca 750- Sold
1992 CBR600F2 thrashed and left in the junkyard to rot
1994 CBR600F2 punched a mailbox, mailbox won...
1997 Hyunai EGG....slower than my 110....donations please?
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This is what I did today. I finally found that there was a spring that was missing in the slide/needle assembly. It is the V shaped spring that apparently holds the needle down so it will stay in position. The new carb kit had this spring which I installed.
Now I can get it to idle but only with the Choke ON. Also, it seems now that the carb stopped leaking gas out of the drain tube while left in the RUN position with the motor not running.
I have messed with the 2 adjustment screws and can't get it to idle without the choke ON.
I have tried the settings per the manual and adjusted from there. I also tried it with the gas cap on and off.
Also, before installing the spring I had moved the needle clip UP one position since it has been running rich.
Any suggestions? Also, when looking at the diagram for the carb using the link posted above (which is exactly like the manual I have) it seems to show the slide going into the carb backwards. It seems to me the right way is for the side of the slide with the groove all of the way down the side should be installed on the side of the carb where the little metal piece is closer to the top. The other side of the slide has a grove closer to the bottom where the idle screw goes in.
Please look at the diagram and see if you understand what I'm saying.
I really appreciate the help.
Edit: I just checked to see if it was leaking before posting this and it IS still leaking while left in the RUN position and the motor OFF.
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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The wide groove on the slide is the one that goes toward the idle speed screw.I am pretty sure the slide will only go all the way down in the right position.
If you are having to run it with the choke on it is running too lean, the pilot jet must be plugged up.The pilot jet is where the gas comes from for it to idle.It is the smallest jet that is sunk down in the carb body.
That bottom hose that is leaking is not an overflow like on other carbs,its just a bowl drain for when you drain the carb for storage.Just put a screw in the end of the hose if you dont want to epoxy it shut like I did.It doesnt mean your float is sticking.
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The slow jet is #29 in the picture
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I don't see how the slow jet would be plugged up as I have just cleaned the whole carb twice, and running filters on the petcock. But I guess I'll check it again.
Also, the slide does not close all the way. It stays about 1/4" with no throttle. To me if that was a problem it would be idling very high?
I just finished running it for about 15 minutes with the choke OFF but having to constantly give it throttle to stay running. Adjusted and adjusted and still won't idle.
I pulled the plug just now and it still black and dry like it is still running rich.
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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Try taking that air filter off and see how it runs.Are you sure you have the slide in there with the wide slot toward the idle speed screw.The one with the spring on it.Try turning that idle speed screw in until the spring is all the way compressed and see if it speeds up the idle.Are you certain the choke butterfly is opening,its on a spring ,its not a regular solid shaft like some other carbs.Its possible its not moving when you move the choke handle.
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It sure sounds to me like an air restriction somewhere the more I think about it.If it were mine I would pull off that aire box so you can see the choke open and close and run it and see how it does.It will be as lean as it can get that way.
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It's dark now so I'll get on it again in the morning. I know for sure the choke is working right. I had the carb off several times today and checked the choke. The slide is in right too. Your right about it only fitting one way. I just tried it when I had it off to make sure.
I have tried turning both screws all the way in and out and it's really not affecting it too much.
Seems like since I put the new jets and pilot and air screws in the carb, not it won't idle. Before it would idle and run fine for about 2 minutes then die.
I also put a screw in the drain hose. I guess I'll pull it off tomorrow and check the jets and maybe put the old one's back. Man this is really aggravating.
I thought for sure once I found out that the V looking spring wasn't even in the slide holding down the needle that once I put it in that be the problem.
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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What about the air vent tube on the choke side of the carb? I have put my finger on it while running to see if it would change anything and it had no effect. Could this be a problem?
'85 Honda 250ES Big Red
'97 Polaris Sportsman 400 4x4 2-stroke
'04 EZGO TXT
Former trikes;
85 & 86 ATC 250es Big Reds, 200e, 185s, 200s, (2) '84 250r, Yamaha 175 2-stroke, ATC 70, (2) ATC 110, TriZinger 60
***GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR TROOPS***
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Man I sure cant figure out why its running rich.try running it without that air filter tommorrow and see what that does.I would stick those old jets back in there to as long as they are clean they will be ok.
85-70,79-110,79-110,80-110,86-250ES,85 250r,86 350x,82 250r
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I would stick the little tube of a carb cleaner can in it and blast some carb cleaner throught it with the slide out so you can be sure its not plugged.Just squirt the cleaner in while you look down the top of the carb to see its clear..
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