Still Having Problems with 110 Dying..UPDATE..IT RUNS!

[bigreddaddy]

Well now that you said that, I remember doing it already. I'll just tear down the carb again and go through it, replace the jets, then throw it against the house a couple of times. JK.
I'll try it without the airbox too. I really appreciate your help man.

[bigreddaddy]

I'm about to get started with this 110 but have question about the "V" or "W" shaped spring that is shown in the diagram above the needle clip, above the slide.
Like I already stated, this spring was not in the slide until I put the one that came with the carb kit in it.
The manual doesn't show how to install this spring so I figured it should go down the slide on top of the needle and clip to hold the them in place.

Is this correct?

[Vealmonkey]

Yes, that is right about the spring holding the needle and clip in place. I've found sometimes, that if people have turned in the fuel\air screw in as hard as they could, it sometimes enlarges that port to the point where you no longer have any adjustment for the air\fuel. It basicall means that the carb is shot and will have to be replaced with a better used carb.

[bigreddaddy]

Thanks for the reply. Now I'm going to go re-check every darn thing that has something to do with fuel and air.
I do think the throttle cable may need to be replaced. There is no play at the thumb lever, and the adjusting piece on the other end on top of the carb looks like it has never been moved since 1980. But I don't think that is my main problem as it should be idling very high if it were.
I do have 2 other carbs that are in rough shape but if I can't get this thing running right today I'm going to try another carb.

I'll post an update later. Thanks again for all the help.

[dufrain]

On the slide it should go ,needle and clip,then the washer like piece if it has one,then that w spring thing seated in the slot in the slide.

[bigreddaddy]

Well there isn't a washer, and I thought it might need to go in the slot in the slide somehow but I wasn't sure. So I just put inside the slide and pushed it down on top of the clip/needle.

I took the carb off and went through the whole thing. Checked the float, float needle (new) and seat.
Comparing the old and new slow jets, the new jet's hole is very, very small. It was a LOT smaller than the old slow jet, so I put the old one back in.
I cranked it up, it idles again but does the same thing as before. Quits after a minute or two.
I took the air box off. It seemed to idle better and longer, but still quit. I took the air filter off. Same thing.
It will run/idle great for about a minute then rev up a little then quit. It still leaks gas when left in the RUN position with the motor off.
When I had the carb off I took the intake off and made sure the O ring was good and checked gaskets.
I even adjusted the throttle cable a little so there is a little bit of play at the thumb lever.
! I don't understand why it will run for a minute then quit. I have checked everything I can think of.

[bigreddaddy]

Now that I think of it, there is a washer (not metal) that was in the cap of the carb above the long coil spring.
Would it make a difference if I put that wasker in, then the W shaped spring on top of it? I'm not sure how the W spring is supposed to fit in the slide/groove.

[slothminx]

You tried taking the gas cap off just as its about to quit? sounds like its not venting.

[bigreddaddy]

One more question. On the intake manifold, on the carb side there is a regular gasket and a plastic spacer shaped just like the gasket.
Should there also be a spacer on the other end of the manifold that connects to the motor? Because all I have is a gasket on the engine side.
I was thinking if there is supposed to be a spacer on that side, that the carb would be tilting towards the front of the bike, not keeping the fuel level right in the bowl.

[bigreddaddy]

You tried taking the gas cap off just as its about to quit? sounds like its not venting.

No, not when it was about to quit. But I have ran it with the cap off.

[bigreddaddy]

I give up. I'm going try another carb. I just don't get it. I even changed out the damn drain screw, still leaks gas. Still runs for a minute then dies. Cap off, cap on. Has spark, gas and air. Good compression.
It seems like whatever controls the gas just isn't working. I've put off working on my big red because I thought I could get this one completed quicker.

I just don't understand, that is seems like its running the gas out of the bowl, then quits, but it will start leaking gas out of the bowl drain.

[bigreddaddy]

Well I just had to check one more thing. I had cleaned the screen in the petcock several times, but I just took it out and ran it with the gas cap off, and it still died after about 2 minutes of idling.

Anyone keeping up with this very long thread and has an idea, PLEASE let me know.

[bigreddaddy]

Finally! Damn. I got it running right this morning .

The first thing I did was put the filter screen back in the petcock. Pulled it over wouldn't start. Checked plug and it was wet with gas. Let the gas out of the drain and pulled on it a few times without the plug in. Still wouldn't start. Cleaned plug, same steps, nothing.
I decided to switch the gas lines around on the petcock. I also took the plug out of my parts 110 and stuck it in. Cranked right up and stayed running.
I don't have any filters in the plastic tank so I never bothered switching the lines before, thinking the tubes in the tank were about the same size.
It also stopped leaking gas. It's smoking some, mostly white from what I can tell. Doesn't smell like burnt oil to me. I'm pretty sure its running rich. It is supposed to have had a new top end done from a shop about 2 years ago.
Has pretty good power to haul my big ass 270 pounds around the yard. HIGH gears don't seem to work. When I switch it to HIGH it just sits there, won't move. It's not that big a deal for now, at least I have LOW and it stays running. Super wheelie machine.
And the lights work too. I knew the headlight worked but last night after taking the petcock screen out then firing it up I saw that the tail light works too.

FINALLY!!! Now I can get back to work on my 250es and get those new bearings, brakes and new brake cables on it.

Thanks again for all of your help. I know this was a very long thread but maybe it will help someone troubleshoot a problem their having.

[Vealmonkey]

As far as putting into high. On some of mine, I have had to try and rock the trike back and forth while trying to put the trike in HI, sometimes it helps and sometimes it doesn't. Good luck and congrats on getting it running.

[dufrain]

My 110 has to be rocked sometimes to.Do a compresssion test on it that will tell you how good the topend is.Tha smoke might be junk in the pipe from sitting and all that gas has probably washed down the cylinder walls so it might have to reseat a little.