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Thread: Restoration questions, what to do about nuts and bolts? Engine finishing? Rim paint

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    Restoration questions, what to do about nuts and bolts? Engine finishing? Rim paint

    OK, I think that this summer’s project will be restoring the 83 Big Red, not a 100 point show restoration but fairly close to it. I am thinking of painting instead of powder coating and not going all out so that I can do it on a budget, after all I do still use this as a trail machine. Then in a few years (when I am out of school and working) I will pull it apart and do a full restoration on it (sentimental reasons for this machine). The rusty wheels and lower fork tubes are really getting to me, I have held back for 2 years but I can't take it any more!

    Anyways, what do I do about the bolts? I am not going to replace all of them but I would like to clean them up. Do I have them coated? What about plating? I am not going to put rusty bolts back in and because they are just steel even if I clean them they will rust up again.

    What do I do to the engine? It is clean but because it is 24 years old it is starting to corrode a little so it needs to be freshened up. I have heard aluminum wheel cleaner works well but will that give me the factory look? I think sandblasting leaves the surface too rough, what about bead blasting?

    When painting the rims, should I remove the tires first? The rims will be sandblasted and then painted. I haven’t decided if I will be replacing the tires or not. The way I see it if I don’t remove the tires I might not be able to paint the outside lip very well but if I remove the tires I could scratch the new paint when putting the tires back on. Also, if I do remove the tires should I blast and paint the inside of the rims? What about the beads?
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    stainless steel bolt kit... ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...mZ250081661456 way cheaper and quicker than coating em all.... just a thought though....
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    I would do a bolt kit but they don't have one for the whole machine. I need to take care of all the bolts, not just the engine ones.

    The engine is bare aluminum, no painting so that is why I am concerned about surface finish.
    1984 Yamaha YT 60 Tri Zinger(current project)
    1983 Yamaha YTM 200 (rear suspension kit)..... long term project
    2004 BMW R1150R
    1972 Honda CT 70
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    check the fastenerguy on ebay for a bolt kit. I think he has a kit for just about everything.

    I remember Huffa wrapping the tires in a garbage bag and painting the rims. seems the easiest way to me.

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    I take the original bolts and get them nickelled again at the platers,its not that expensive and maintains that OEM look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edog
    Paint the motor.It will look better,and be a hell of alot easyer to clean.You wont have to worry about the Aluminum corroding.
    Honda didn't paint the engine so I am not going to either, I want to keep this machine as close to stock as I can so it will be easier when I do the show resoration in a few years. This is the trike I could see sitting in my living room fully restored someday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussieduner
    I take the original bolts and get them nickelled again at the platers,its not that expensive and maintains that OEM look.
    So it is the nickel plating for the bolts, that is what I was looking for. Thanks.
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    1983 Yamaha YTM 200 (rear suspension kit)..... long term project
    2004 BMW R1150R
    1972 Honda CT 70
    2007 Lifan 110

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    Ive seen a set of rims on a recon that someone had repainted gray (close to the factory silver), and they taped around the rim and either used newspaper or a garbage bag to cover the tire and they turned out VERY nice. It also depends on the paint you are using, most s are a much softer paint, but if you have the resources get a good tractor paint from tsc (I think that they have all colors) and spray them with a gun (paint can will say how big, I would think a 1.0-1.5 nozzle)... if you can do the tractor paint, or a good one-shot system I would take the rims off of the tires and not worry about chipping them...
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