Need Input from MX Expert Classes, 4 Strokes Expert, Hybrids

[Billy Golightly]

I voted 2 stroke (non hybrid) in the expert class, but a 2 stroke hybrid in place is not out of the cards for me yet. I would suggest, if there is enough participants, to have perhaps a "New School" class or something for any type of conversions, and machines using new technology. 2strokes, and 4 strokes together.

[TimSr]

I voted 2 stroke (non hybrid) in the expert class, but a 2 stroke hybrid in place is not out of the cards for me yet. I would suggest, if there is enough participants, to have perhaps a "New School" class or something for any type of conversions, and machines using new technology. 2strokes, and 4 strokes together.

Billy, You pretty well hit the button on what was in the back of mind when I posted this poll.

MX is about the rider, and I do not want to see it get to the point that a person has to spend lots of money and build a custom trike to be competitive in the Expert Class. Trikefest MX was created as a celebration of vintage trike racing, a flashback to the 80's. We also need to showcase and encourage new creations from idea guys. Their inginuity should be celebrated!

4 stroke Expert Class was created last year to accomodate expert riders, riding in two classes. It looks as though there is no need for it this year, and 350X's are hardly a good match for big bore hybrids. For this reason reason I will be eliminiating the 4 Stroke Expert Class for 2007. Should we get an Expert Class rider on a 350X, they will run in the Vintage Expert Class (fka Hi Performance Expert Class) where they would be a much better match against vintage 2 strokes than against hybrids.

Hi Performance Expert Class will become Vintage Expert Class. Trikes do not have to be stock, but extensive modifications that give significant advantages and do not capture the spirit of the trike racing era will move to the Monster Trike class. Putting an 85 YZ 250 motor in a TriZ would still be an eligible vintage trike. Putting a 2006 YZ250 motor in a TriZ would be a hybrid and a Monster Trike.

Monster Trike Class will include hybrids, big bores and strokers that significantly increase displacement, and custom builds that give significant advantage over vintage trikes. Since we are not likely to have a full gate, but do have enough for a class, I will invite the top placers in the Vintage Expert Class to run in this class to fill the gate. Vintage riders will be for exhibition only, and only Monster trikes are eligible for trophies in this class.

I reserve the right to make judgement calls in the interest of competitiveness and to preserve the spirit of the event. We are racing for fun, and really, all races are for exhibition. I want to see the best racers win, and not on technicalities or hardware purchases!

[Derrick Adams]

This actually works in my favor. I can run my 250R in the Vintage class and my Hybrid in the Moster class. Brandon can run his 500 in the Monster class now too!

I noticed that neither Mark or Tim responded to this post. Both of which ran with me in expert 4 stroke last year. Mark even ran both classes. I'm curious as to what their thoughts are, since I know Tim has the 250R and 350X now and Mark wants to defend his title.

[atctim]

I have since retired both of my racing trikes I ran last year (the Big Red racer is tired and does not deserve that punishment - and I sold the 350X for another one that will not be raced - it is my only garage queen). I will race my Air cooled 250R and probably a non-suspended class this year - or maybe a 200X in the mid size suspended class. I guess I'll fall into the Vintage Class as well on my 250R.

I can say that classes really don't matter to me because it is all for fun, BUT the competitor in me wants it to be fair so I have a chance at the pseudo podium - and frankly in the past years - running a bone stock 350X against hybrids was not the fairest of events. But I see that TimSr is evolving the classes very nicely.

One other item that has been eating at me is possibly longer than 3 lap races. In the past 2 years, I have ran 2 separate classes - and that about killed me. With longer races - and getting older and fatter - it makes me wonder if I will physically be able to do this. I will suck it up I am sure - and what better incentive for a little pre-TF training!

See you guys on the track

[Louis Mielke]

I like the idea of the monster class also. I would hope my 500 will be up to snuff for something like that this year. So little time! Argh.

[Derrick Adams]

I like the idea of the monster class also. I would hope my 500 will be up to snuff for something like that this year. So little time! Argh.

SWEET!!!! I think Brandon will probably run his 500 in that class as well, so it should be interesting to watch!

[Louis Mielke]

All depends if I get my tripples built. My KTM inverts are sitting in my living room and every day I look at them and think gee I don't want to put the OLD front end back on for TF. Its already except the front end and I'm even flying new colors this year. Hope to turn some heads. Hehe

[crazyflights]

After reading this forum, it left me glad u all have put some thought into this I think the monster class is a good idea other than, if there is enough particiapants including the front runners of vintage class, may just make it a little crowded, but thats only if there is quite a few of us. I will be bringing a Hybrid 4stroke, not sure how well it will do cause no tracks are groomed good enough around here to really kick it sideways, also in vintage class any R or Z with inverted forks should be in monster class, will you all run 2 Heats and average the 2 together, also most races would leave at 4-5 laps, u may add another pro class, for whatever you want to enter, that runs like7-10 laps i dunno, I have never seen the track. Just wanted to add to the thread since im coming.