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Thread: Speacial 350X quad !!!!!! ..........gives me another idea !!

  1. #16
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    I'd be happy if you R&D just a few peices to convert the bike. Let me go buy the 450 of my price range. Then you could make a bolt up subframe to work with the TRX seat and fenders. Figure out what if any mods need to be made to a swingarm of the same 450 or send in your stocker for fab work. New trees and spacers with an axle up front. The $price of the kit price may not look too bad then. Yeah 10 is too steep but a kit for $2000 might work. Airbox, front break, skid plates, and other little peices need addressing. You could always offer the complete bike.....but what about us tight to the pocket do it yourselfers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric250R
    I have to agree with everyone else here. It's just not a good looking bike, and why bother ? Too many good quads out there. I've had many 350X motors in 250X frames and they were great for well under 2 grand. I'll give him his dues for being able to fab it up, but it looks no different at all from the conversion kits of the 80's and 90's. But hey, who am I ? If it floats your boat, I say go for it.
    That's right, what ever floats your boat!

    If the guy could make up the kits for the 450's, that would be the hot set up with the cost of used ones depriciating every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Z 250
    I'd be happy if you R&D just a few peices to convert the bike. Let me go buy the 450 of my price range. Then you could make a bolt up subframe to work with the TRX seat and fenders. Figure out what if any mods need to be made to a swingarm of the same 450 or send in your stocker for fab work. New trees and spacers with an axle up front. The $price of the kit price may not look too bad then. Yeah 10 is too steep but a kit for $2000 might work. Airbox, front break, skid plates, and other little peices need addressing. You could always offer the complete bike.....but what about us tight to the pocket do it yourselfers?
    We shall see if he contacts me. Most likely nothing will become of this but it is a interesting discussion.

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    Ugly Ugly Ugly. Those conversions were for a day that quads weren't so available. I do see your point though...

    We really just have to stop screwing around and nail down some 4 to 3 conversions. MR ATC had started one but that seems to be taking a long time. Tossing a newer motor in an old chassis is great but still uses 20 yo parts.

    There is alot of talent on this board and everyone has something to add. I don't think it will be long before we come up with something that will let us grab a used 450R for 4K and some custom parts for another 2K that gives us what we all want.....A reliable, fast, new and good looking ATC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtcrasher
    Ugly Ugly Ugly. Those conversions were for a day that quads weren't so available. I do see your point though...

    We really just have to stop screwing around and nail down some 4 to 3 conversions. MR ATC had started one but that seems to be taking a long time. Tossing a newer motor in an old chassis is great but still uses 20 yo parts.

    There is alot of talent on this board and everyone has something to add. I don't think it will be long before we come up with something that will let us grab a used 450R for 4K and some custom parts for another 2K that gives us what we all want.....A reliable, fast, new and good looking ATC.
    I agree, the 450R is the best canidate and if it depriciates like the motoxer's do, in no time they will be in the 2500-3000 range, or are they nearing that range now? I never really checked?

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    hey, really not a hard conversion, 4 to 3. just re-engineer the front of the frame to support the steering stem, the rest is piece of cake. most, if not all of the newer quads don't even begin to be strong enough to do that. maybe transplanting a trike or bike section might be the way to go.
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    building a rx is way cheaper and will handle better
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    04-05 trx 450r's are getting cheaper by the day. Ive seen nice ones go for 2900-3200 on ebay. A buddy of mine works with a guy that has a 04 thats beautiful and he wants $3000. Another guy i know just sold a very clean and low hour 03 raptor for $2500. Lots of used quads to choose from so price goes down FAST. I like to see our trikes are holding value well. Of course model and condition is a huge variable, but i plan on keepin mine as long as i can. But yes it would be nice to figure out a do-it-yourself 450r-yfz trike conversion. In time it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tecat-z
    04-05 trx 450r's are getting cheaper by the day. Ive seen nice ones go for 2900-3200 on ebay. A buddy of mine works with a guy that has a 04 thats beautiful and he wants $3000. Another guy i know just sold a very clean and low hour 03 raptor for $2500. Lots of used quads to choose from so price goes down FAST. I like to see our trikes are holding value well. Of course model and condition is a huge variable, but i plan on keepin mine as long as i can. But yes it would be nice to figure out a do-it-yourself 450r-yfz trike conversion. In time it will happen.
    Yep, your right, they are getting down to where it makes sense to start thinking more about these conversions.

    This Yamaha went for only 3300, that would make a beautiful trike! Most are going for about 500 or so more though in this condition, this guy was lucky!
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    Not my cup of tea but I do like to see someone spend the time and attention to detail this guy obviously has on this project though...

    I definitely feel that the guys on here that have access, the knowledge, and will-power to do the 4x3 convesions need to get going, and maybe the guys that dont have these skills, could help fund it!! just kidding, but we do need to get SOMETHING going.
    I would like to see a cr125 or yz or something be a platform for a handbuilt trike. I hope you guys understand what I mean here, I would just like to be able to buy "plans", or download them or something off of here that had detailed instructions of a complete conversion (several models available). Using as many stock parts as possible, be able to read from a list of what you would need (or have to scavenge from ebay) that wouldnt cost a TON of money, atleast not more than what a 450 would go for...
    The only obstacles I see are the fork setup, and the swingarm-carrier-rearend setup, (and possibly frame modification). But honestly, once we had a "master plan, we could all practically have new trikes that were all of the same "model" (as if they were handbuilt from the same location, other than changes the builder would make)
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    Speedbump built a killer updated version of a three wheeler conversion and it tanked on ebay (didnt sell) and that shocked me....To me that tells the tale of no one really putting up the cash when it comes to getting a "newer custom three wheeler" His didnt even top 2500.00...Sorry to sound negative but I hear alot of .....All talk and NO spend $$!!!! IMO

    http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ght=conversion

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=110035720862

    This shows me the "real demand" for updated machines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangecnty250r
    Speedbump built a killer updated version of a three wheeler conversion and it tanked on ebay (didnt sell) and that shocked me....To me that tells the tale of no one really putting up the cash when it comes to getting a "newer custom three wheeler" His didnt even top 2500.00...Sorry to sound negative but I hear alot of .....All talk and NO spend $$!!!! IMO

    http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/s...ght=conversion

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=110035720862

    This shows me the "real demand" for updated machines
    It's beautiful and all and his work is top notch and may very well be worth the 3800 or more but a one off like that I personally would not want. I'd be scared I'd break an expensive part and be stuck with a 3800 trike that could not be riddem till another part was made and for 3800 it still was not completed and needed some minor fiddling with parts yet.

    I'd rather have a kit that you know the part would be avaible at any given time.

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