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    More Tri-Z questions

    After I start it up and ride it for a bit, and stop it, I can see a PINK MILKY FLUID coming out of what looks to be the crankcase breather tube? It's a tube right behind the cylinder it comes out of, allmost reminds me of hot ATF, but pinker and milkier. WTF is this?

    Next question: I put a 45 pilot jet back in the carb, because it had a 40. So now my carb is back to stock, all the settings are right, and this damn thing STILL has no low end power. Only thing I know of left that could be wrong is the reeds, right? I took the pipe off, the exhaust port is nice and clean, the pipe isn't dinged up (except where it looks like theres a stock bend to fit under the radiator), and as far as I know the silencer is clean. If I took the silencer off and ran it like that, would it hurt the engine any? I've been told I probably shouldn't, because 2-strokes need back-pressure or something like that.

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    i bet they are running automatic transmission fluid in the tranny. it may be mixing with some water. it makes it look like pepto bismol. chech your water level and get the correst tranny fluid.
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    did u check the coolant color...

    check the color of the coolant.... if its the same color u probaly got a bad seal somewhere along the lines.

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    Hmm...checked the coolant, looks fine.
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    Yeah baskets right, they probably put ATF in the tranny. Drain it and get some correct oil in it. The reason that its coming out the breather tube is probably because its over filled. The person that put the tranny fluid in might not have known about the oil check bolt.

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    ok so is it safe to run without the silencer, or does it have to stay one for "backpressure"?
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    You can, but I wouldn't reccomend it. And Don't do it without richening up the carb, quite a bit. Also, I'll add that taking off your silencer will not give you any more lowend, if thats what your thinking, it will totally make it all topend. If your pretty sure your lowend problem isn't just the typhical no power at low RPMs 2 stroke, then take a compression test and see if its notgetting time for a piston or ring job.

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    Oh my purpose wasn't for the low end power deal, it was for the noise factor, HEHEHE! Harass the neighbors! I wish somebody lived nearby so you could take it for a drive and tell me what you think. If this is the typical no lower end power of 2 strokes...then I'm totally disgusted. I think something must be wrong because it is so pathetic it's unbelievable.

    EDIT: I forgot to ask with the ATF being run in there, will that seriously hurt anything?

    Another Edit: I have to bring it up almost to the powerband to make it take off. It's nice and loud when I take off....I just don't think that's right. One more thing, where can I buy a new axle at? The left side threads are hardly there, and I think the best thing to do is replace the axle.
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    While I didn't exactly like the way the lowend on 2 strokes where when I first got my R, I learned to adjust my riding to style to be able to make up for the lack of 4 stroke lowend that I had been use to my entire life. I've never ran ATF in anything, but I can't imagine it really damaging things other then perhaps making it difficult to make friction on the clutch (Similar to the problems when using STP or other oil treatments)

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    Mike from long island has a BAnshee axel in is Z, so that means (I believe) that the raptor axel would also be compatible. When you mean, bring it up to the power band for it to take off, you mean where the engine kind of evens out and starts making power right? It Sounds like just a normal 250 2 stroke to me, but like Tim Sr said in a previous post, a need for a piston or ring job could be amplifying this.

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    What I mean is I have to rev it up close to the powerband before I even start letting the clutch out. Here's the steps:

    1: (in lower rpm) kick it into first
    2: rev it up close to powerband
    3: let the clutch out, fly fly fly!!!!
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    Do a compression test, if you don't have one or know someone that does, you can get them pretty cheap out of Dennis Kirk (Around $80 or so I think) and their a priceless tool to have for diagnosing things.

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    $80

    $80 shock I got mine for ten dollars. It doesn't fit my 200x plug hole though. evil

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    :-D I'm positive that your water pump seal is bad. Take the clutch cover off to work on it. I've seen that same problem on a couple of Tri-Z's. You can use Banshee or Blaster axles.

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    Re: $80

    Quote Originally Posted by wanta250r
    $80 :shock: I got mine for ten dollars. It doesn't fit my 200x plug hole though. :evil:
    The one in Dennis kirk comes with assorted adapters to fit different spark plug holes, plus it has a pretty decent length hose on it so you don't have be under the gas tank while trying to kick it over.

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