A pic or two!

[ATC-Eric]

They are a bit top heavy. A day in the trails with a Z is exhuasting! You'll know soon enough. Disclaimer: Im not in the shape I used to be......

Ive got 22's in the rear, and a 25 on the front on my Z. Personally, I dont like the hidth. Im about to get a 23 for the front, and a set of 20's for the rear.

I want to be a little lower to the ground. I do a decent amount of trail riding with my Z. I think Ill still get around fine with smaller tires.

[chris200x]

Don't forget, it's should sag quite a few inches with you sitting on it.

Also, with the gas tank not in the usual place, that helps a great deal with lowering the center of gravity.

It will be very interesting to ride your Z and my R back to back and see which one feels lighter. On the scale, from specs I read, yours is close to 20 lbs heavier but yet for some reason looks lighter. I'm sure your steel swingarm (shame on Yamaha) adds a few ponds right there but at least it is not sprung weight.

Raffa cracked his again, did you know that? That was on Sunday when I was not there. You may very well need to beef yours up, or was it already?

I somehow missed your post ealier..

I checked the swingarm pretty thoroughly before I painted it and it's in good shape. I won't be jumping very high with this so I don't think I have to worry much about that.

Where on the swingarm did his break? and why?

Huffa.. there's a member thats making aluminum swingarms for the tri z here on the boards (new product and development forum) which should be alot lighter than stock. One of those are on my want list but I just can't afford it right now. I don't think I'll go with an extended one though...

What does the 300 need to be trail ready? If that majestic place isn't so bad with rocks maybe we should take the trikes up there once I get mine broken in. unless you know a nice mellow place to ride more locally.

[Mosh]

Chris,The 400ex hubs will fit.But they need to be somewhat worn out or they wont go on the z axle.My advice is to get a set for a older 300ex or 250x quad.Those usally have been worn out some and slide right on the z axle.You will have to run a honda rear wheel though.But the tri-z wheels might fit the honda hub,Becuase they were both 4x100 bolt patterns.
My swingarm cracks too,but it is in a spot where it does not really affect the strenght.Already welded it once.Cracked in the same area.That is up front near the shock area.

[slothminx]

The swinger cracking depends on the year of swinger you run, the 86's all crack, the 85's are less likely.

I love my 18's make it handle like nothing else. And if you run 20's ive only got 1" less ground clearence at the rear. and 2" if you run 22's.

Some pics or the 18's





Im really impressed with how little it gets stuck, And I have been trailing it through mud over trees and over rocks, Just run your skidder and you will be fine



You can see where the quad went around . And it wasnt stuck, I was wearing clean clothes and the mud spray was coating me from head to toe so i stopped

[chris200x]

Chris,The 400ex hubs will fit.But they need to be somewhat worn out or they wont go on the z axle.My advice is to get a set for a older 300ex or 250x quad.Those usally have been worn out some and slide right on the z axle.You will have to run a honda rear wheel though.But the tri-z wheels might fit the honda hub,Becuase they were both 4x100 bolt patterns.
My swingarm cracks too,but it is in a spot where it does not really affect the strenght.Already welded it once.Cracked in the same area.That is up front near the shock area.

Maybe I misunderstood this but I thought the honda 300ex, 400ex, 250x etc hubs were 4/110. the Z 4/100 is an odd bolt pattern and there isn't many choices as far as aftermarket or swapping off other machines is concerned.

What I was planning on doing if I cannot get Z gold rims is finding something with a 4/110 bolt pattern hub so I can swap the nicer aluminum rims and new tires I have on the back of my SX. Those rims on the rear of my z right now don't even match (one is an ITP and the other a douglas) and it just bugs the hell outta me!

[Huffa]

Chris,The 400ex hubs will fit.But they need to be somewhat worn out or they wont go on the z axle.My advice is to get a set for a older 300ex or 250x quad.Those usally have been worn out some and slide right on the z axle.

I never heard of such a recommendation , putting a hub with worn splines on a perfectly none worn axle.

The splines can't possibly be mating up perfect and you would recommend that to someone ? Wouldn't worn splines start to wear the none worn splines on the axle?

Maybe they mate up perfect because the very tips of splines wear down and the yamaha splines are not as deep as new ones on Honda hubs, yea , maybe that's why you say that?

Yea Chris, when you get more bucks, get that aluminum one, would look sharp!

[chris200x]

Huffa.. I know someone on these boards (just cannot remember who or what thread) was running a honda hub on there Z axle. I think it also adds an inch or two on either side as well.

I'm thinking if that if those machines mantioned above will work won't a 200x hub work also?

[Mosh]

I never heard of such a recommendation , putting a hub with worn splines on a perfectly none worn axle.

The splines can't possibly be mating up perfect and you would recommend that to someone ? Wouldn't worn splines start to wear the none worn splines on the axle?

Maybe they mate up perfect because the very tips of splines wear down and the yamaha splines are not as deep as new ones on Honda hubs, yea , maybe that's why you say that?

Yea Chris, when you get more bucks, get that aluminum one, would look sharp!

Chris.Sorry for the mis info.I mis typed that statement.You are correct on the 4 x110 pattern.I said 4x 100 and i was wrong in that wording.Sorry.
You can run the hubs I mention,off the 400ex If they are slightly worn.

Huffa.I dont know what to say to you.I run them,About 6 other people run them in that condition.All I can say is the hubs are softer than the axle.The axle is hardened steel.Do you really think a softer hub will damage a steel axle .The reason why they get worn is from people not torquing them correctly on the 300ex,250x to begin with.When dealing with a limited budget and 20 year old machines,You have to find alternatives.Unless you(Huffa) have all the money in the world.
My old 250x hubs work perfect on my tri-z,and banshee and warrior etc etc.Do a search.I am not the only one doing it!
Whatever you want to do Chris.

[chris200x]

Lol... You had me all confused there for a minute Rob. If I can find a set hubs cheap enough I'll give it a shot. Better tan buying all new rims and tires.

[Huffa]

Chris.Sorry for the mis info.I mis typed that statement.You are correct on the 4 x110 pattern.I said 4x 100 and i was wrong in that wording.Sorry.
You can run the hubs I mention,off the 400ex If they are slightly worn.

Huffa.I dont know what to say to you.I run them,About 6 other people run them in that condition.All I can say is the hubs are softer than the axle.The axle is hardened steel.Do you really think a softer hub will damage a steel axle .The reason why they get worn is from people not torquing them correctly on the 300ex,250x to begin with.When dealing with a limited budget and 20 year old machines,You have to find alternatives.Unless you(Huffa) have all the money in the world.
My old 250x hubs work perfect on my tri-z,and banshee and warrior etc etc.Do a search.I am not the only one doing it!
Whatever you want to do Chris.

It's cool Mosh, all I wanted was an explaination and you explained it well , I just never heard of such a thing before. Didn't mean to come across sounding smart, just voicing my 1st thoughts, all is well, thanks!

[Bryan Raffa]

yep it cracked right next to the weld from the previous crack..not a big deal Ill just lay another bead next to the old one . it happens right on the curved part right in front of the shock.. I guess they didnt do 100' table tops in the 80's

[jason85atc250r]

It's cool Mosh, all I wanted was an explaination and you explained it well , I just never heard of such a thing before. Didn't mean to come across sounding smart, just voicing my 1st thoughts, all is well, thanks!

Huffa the splines on a Honda rear hub come to tall of a point and won't slide on the splines even though they are the same spline count. they will work when they are slitely worn from not being tightened properly just like Moshman said.

[Huffa]

Huffa the splines on a Honda rear hub come to tall of a point and won't slide on the splines even though they are the same spline count. they will work when they are slitely worn from not being tightened properly just like Moshman said.

I think I said the same thing here, just worded a bit different.

" Maybe they mate up perfect because the very tips of splines wear down and the yamaha splines are not as deep as new ones on Honda hubs, yea , maybe that's why you say that? "

So you could file them down also instead of shopping for worn ones?