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    Are wheelies bad?

    I read somewhere that wheelies can lead to engine siezing or something from lack of oil? Ive been doing alot of them lately through fields and want to find out before my engine go's. Thanks
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    I know that the 86 350x had an improved oil pump set-up to keep it flowing better when riding on steep side hills, and climbing. I dont know the details but i've seen it a few places...
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    I seriously doubt it.

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    I know on the newer ATVs they all have good oil pumps, but im not sure about a 1986 200x? My friend that rides an 83 wheelies constantly and theres never been a problem, buts its always low on compression and smokes. mine does neither
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

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    I think the issue on the 350x's had to do with the oil cooler and maybe not keeping enough pressure or something to that effect. Since the 200's dont use a cooler of any kind i would say they will be fine. I dont really have anything to back up my ideas but it makes sense in my mind...

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    yes and no.... it really depends on how long you ride a wheelie and if its a 2 stroke or 4 stroke my buddy blew up his 400ex doing a wheelie because it starved it of oil but he had also been riding(no lie)a 2 mile wheel(once again no lie) but that was a 4 stroke now on 2 strokes the only oil to worry about is the tranny oil but that runs to the back where all the gears are so it sloshes it around pretty good to keep it lubed while the crank and piston are kept oiled by the carb. short wheelies anywhere from 1ft-1/8ml wont cause any harm but its the real long ones that will cause serious damage.
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    Yeah I can believe it. Its not uncommon to see the new sport machines doing 2 mile + wheelies on the roads. If I was in the dunes and there was a giant flat spot I could probably do that too. But when I do it on the road it usually cuts over to one side from unbalanced wheel PSI and a minor bent axle.

    200x newby, about that supertrapp exhaust. I've been having alot of other mechanical problems with my X. Every bushing is blow or loose and alot of things are stripped or snapped. Once I get everything back together I will let you know about the exhaust. I've also been experementing fitting exhausts on but none really will work without extensive modification.
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

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    I have an aftermarket carrier with timken bearings. Only problem i ever had was the jam nut coming loose. Spinning donuts tends to loosen my swingarm alot. I guess Ill just stick to jumping then? But wait that wears out my bushings? Hmmm?
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    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

    2004 YFZ450 - CP 12.5:1, cam mod , gibson nerfs, hmf pipe, protaper bars + risers, dg bumper/skids, holeshot gncc's on itps, cycra handguard and more stuff to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid-Darkness
    What I would be worrying about is the $40 rear axle bearings and seals you will have to replace after a week or two of wheelies.
    Wheelies wont wear out your rear axle bearings and seals unless they are already completely trashed.
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    IMO...wheelies are only bad if you have absolutely no sense of the "balance point" and your grabbar is too short...lol.
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    or your powerband kicks in and sends you for a loop.
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    Nah, ive done them for ages on my 200, Tri Z, 250r, 350x (borrowed) and no issues. Im talking 5-6th gear ones, and no issues, You will be fine!
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    wow you must fly on the 2 strokes,
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    nope there only "BAD" if you get caught doing them with "TRAIL PRO TIRES"!!!!

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    Lmao, Syko, you beat me to it!
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