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  1. #16
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    In all your manuals it says not to do wheelies cuz the oil level in the engine wont maintain the proper level and parts wont get lubed. I dont suppose a little wheelie here and there would hurt, cuz its not really any different than climbing a steep hill. However, like everyone was saying before, I wouldn't do ones longer than a couple of seconds. Why take the risk? It is true that certain parts arent wet when doing wheelies.
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    Thanks for informing me. I never knew that some parts didnt get oil to them? I did a pretty long one through a field today. Probably 200 yards or so. I also see that it takes effect on sprockets also. I think im done for a while
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    takes effect on sprockets? What do you mean?

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    Im not sure thats whats causing it, but after a long day of wheelieing the other day my 15 tooth sprocket seemed to wear significantly. It could be from using a junk chain also. But this "junk" chain held up better than a $60 DID gold chain did.. A few of the small roller between links snapped out on my DID. When the time comes im getting a brand new 37 tooth rear and a brand new 15 front with a new chain.
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  5. #20
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    yep, change em all at once, or the imperfections in one will cause defects in the other. but as far as wheelies go...it was said earlier....its no different than climbing a steep hill...I wheelie all the time...if the front tire is on the ground im not having enough fun...just pay attention to the bike.
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    well i do alotttttttt of wheelies and have only ever blew up 2 bikes whiel doing wheelies. one was an 83200x and thats becaus ei was up on the rear wheels for abotu 10 min going in circles( 2 diffrent size tires) and i hapen to over rev it for a few seconds to brign the front end back up. and the other one was a 350x for going down at the local airport the entire length fo the run way and it starved the forward mounted oil pump on my 85 350x at the time. but that also coudl ahve been atributed to low oil.
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    Wheelies won't cause any damage to chains, sprockets or bearings.

    On my '85 200x when I was a kid, somehow a bunch of oil managed to spew out of the breather tube while doing some extended "walkers" (my term for nearly vertical, walking speed wheelies). My best guess is because you end up working the brake and clutch quite a bit doing those, sort of rocking back and forth to keep balance. Probably just got the oil sloshing around in there. Ended up needing to do some top end work not long after that. Keep a careful eye on your oil level.

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    Thanks for the tips, I've been checking my oil after ever ride basically. I realized that wheelies are not the culprit of my sprockets. Its that I have an old junk chain on there thats wearing them a little bit too fast. Only other thing is the overflow on the carb, Is there anyway to bypass it pouring gas out? Seems like a waste to me?
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    on my 86 200x i just put a screw in the over flow sure it will bog if you let off the gas while its tilted bacl that far but when your doing a wheelie it will suck up that extra fuel and keep the motor going. goesnt bog while normal riding oinly when you your riding a wheelie and let off the gas but it is barley noticable. had it on there for about 5 months and no problems or loss of performance what so ever.
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    i have a 200s in my x and i am always putting rings in that thing have also blow it up on a great one

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    It seems to me that the second gen. 200Xs don't like those mile long wheelies. I've got 4 heads for mine and the last one ate it's cam and did a near seize on it's bearings. The newer quads can handle much longer wheelies because they run a sump setup and oil tank instead of having it in the crankcase. But asking if wheelies are bad is like asking if boobs are bad. To which I would answer yes, if they are too big.
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    That's why I love two-smokes. You can wheelie then almost indefinetely because the engine gets all it's lubing from the gasoline/oil premix!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sykolincoln View Post
    nope there only "BAD" if you get caught doing them with "TRAIL PRO TIRES"!!!!
    Oh my god.
    I'm back in the USSR...

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