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    108 main jet, air fuel screw 2 1/4 turns out, and the needle needs to be set on the 4th groove. the float needs to be set at 0.55 of an inch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverrat View Post
    For instance, on my 110, I had the original tires with 2 lbs of air in it. The brakes haven't worked on this trike for years, I never needed them, because as soon as I let go of the gas, and maybe tilt the thing a little, she would stop on a dime. Top speed was maybe 35? 3rd gear winded out, and sometimes into 4th. (in high range)

    I put some new tires on it, and now I can't stop, and she winds out to 4th gear, and probably can hit 45, a 10mph difference. The new tires have 8 pounds of pressure (which is too much, cause now I don't have any suspension.) But I am just telling the story to show a point of how much tire pressure, and tire design can make on speed of a trike. These ATV tires when under inflated have tremendous rolling resistance. Also the hardness of the rubber can have something to do with it, as well.
    I totally back this up with my experience. My ATC70/110 project has a flat front tire, and no brakes, but you don't even need them on it. It'll slow down instantly when you let off the gas, because the flat front tire takes so much muscle to roll.
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    Thats for the info on the jets, I will look into getting some tools tomorrow to see what going on. I forgot today was sunday and all the auto shops are closed. Your right about the tires though! Today I cleaned the air filter, put some pressure in the tires and drilled a few 3/8 holes in the airbox lid and took it up a fairly steep incline. It definatly has alot more power and speed now. I still didnt ride with the other guy again yet, I will tomorrow and see how much difference this made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by super90 View Post
    Alright, as for weight. He weighs around 230, not a lightweight, I weigh 175. His tires are the origional pro vector balloon tires and mine are stock 400ex radials. I run around 25 psi in all my tires usually unless im going on a real rocky trail that needs some extra cushsion. As for the 300ex, I mean that I can keep up in accelleration. I never rode with a 300 wide open anywhere but im guessing I couldnt keep up for long after mid range. His is faster mostly on top end but if his clutch didnt slip I wouldnt doubt accelleration also. I did consider all the things but really it just dosent add up. I even put some stock 22'' balloon tires off of my 110 on it and it couldnt pull 6th gear, then he still creeps by.

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    Thats nothing, Half the time I fill the compressor to 50. Never had a tire blow yet, but usually on rocky trails i only use 5 psi
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    Quote Originally Posted by 84honda200s View Post
    108 main jet, air fuel screw 2 1/4 turns out, and the needle needs to be set on the 4th groove. the float needs to be set at 0.55 of an inch.
    Where did you get the info? My rebuild kit came with a 112 but you may be correct... BTW there is no exact setting of the air screw, it needs to be dialed in according to the climate/ weather. You wanna talk about running rich? My 86 had a pea shooter off of a streetbike on it, and was jetted at a 123 main .
    BTW super90, run about 8 lbs front and 6 in the back and see if you dont get better results. You may have not blown a tire yet, but I would never run that much air in my tires. Just a suggestion............
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    IT dont matter a 250r 81/84 will pretty much smoke any 200. Maybe not to one that has big bore kit and ported out. But stock to stock or some mods 250r wins hands down. Get a 250r you will be happy with it.
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    Yeah i wish... Im about sick of this thing. Few minuted ago chain popped and wedged between the swingarm and sprocket. Rolled down a hill and scraped my arm and chest all up. Yesterday broke the clutch because the thing lost alot of compression so 1st gear going down a hill is going pretty fast with no engine resistance (could be why its slow too) So it was going for a big rocky hill. So I could go down a steep rock hill and hit trees or down a bigger hill with more trees. So i bailed and tipped it before it went off the hills. Just broke the lever. Today there was no damage except for myself. But i would rather have a 450r than a 250r, theres no doubt there more stable. I never had much luck for 2 strokes either. But now im stuck with a 200x so im happy. It never got me stranded anywhere but a few yards from my house.
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    Probably so lean that it melted a hole in the piston.

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    I dont know could be? But the thing used to backfire a ton and the plug would always smell like gas. I always thought it was rich but not i got it to stop backfiring.
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

    2004 YFZ450 - CP 12.5:1, cam mod , gibson nerfs, hmf pipe, protaper bars + risers, dg bumper/skids, holeshot gncc's on itps, cycra handguard and more stuff to come.

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    Once you know the compression you can go from there. I do think your main problems are probably tuning. You need to know what size jets you have to be able to tune it correctly. Once it is tuned right it will feel like a new machine.

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    super90, my jets on the 200x were set for a high altitude and trust me, it was hell until i looked at it, mine backfired and took 4-5 HARD kicks to start. Now that I adjusted a few notches, it runs good *on exception of the throttle cable not moving by itself...lol, starts nice and easy on first or second kick. I blew my 250 engine because I never adjusted it right... so now I make sure.

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    Im not really even sure what my jet sizes are now. I didnt take the carb off yet to see. But it usually starts with 1 kick cold, except in the winter but it will with full choke.
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

    2004 YFZ450 - CP 12.5:1, cam mod , gibson nerfs, hmf pipe, protaper bars + risers, dg bumper/skids, holeshot gncc's on itps, cycra handguard and more stuff to come.

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    wat exhaust u got ? wats all your mods ? name it all then i may be more of a help to you.
    down to parts because i no longer have a place to ride trikes.

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    pro circuit t4 with cobra header, K&N filter, drilled airbox lid that helped backfiring, thats basically all engine wise.
    1986 200x- old school D.I.D wheels, Gold D.I.D X-Ring Chain, Rad MFG. Carrier, PRM Grab Bar, Pro Circuit T-4 custom, Maier plastics, 85x forks, 18x10.5x8 kenda klaw mxr's on itp steels, the money pit never ends

    2004 YFZ450 - CP 12.5:1, cam mod , gibson nerfs, hmf pipe, protaper bars + risers, dg bumper/skids, holeshot gncc's on itps, cycra handguard and more stuff to come.

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