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Thread: My 83 Honda 110 Rebuild Thread With Pictures!

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    My 83 Honda 110 Rebuild Thread With Pictures!

    I have been wanting/needing to do this for awhile now but have had to many unexpected projects in the meantime. I have finally got most of the bugs figured out in my 91 ktm 540 so the Honda has now taken its spot in the garage on the butchers block

    Tore the top end off of it today and started looking everything over and doing some measuring.

    This little thing had gotten to the point that it looked like i was running premix through it and had gotten harder and harder to start, It finally gave up the urge and wouldnt fire at all anymore. This was after rebuilding the carb and pull starter...Pull starter is broken again because of trying so hard to get it running.

    Heres some of the many pictures ive got so far...



    This is the only real problem i have with the cylinder, I figure the cylinder will have to be bored out to fix this put how much i dont know and am somewhat scared about.

    Here is another problem area, What do you guys think am i going to have to replace the head?



    -1983 Honda ATC110-
    Brand new topend using. Performance cam and some porting/polishing.
    Should be good for another 24 years now!
    -1991 KTM 540-
    Piston turned into grenade inside motor ammit
    -1996 KTM 550-
    Midway through COMPLETE rebuild
    -1997 Honda Cr80-
    Spun crank bearing on trans side ammit

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    Cylinder doesnt seem to have any real bad scoring. I do not have a bore gauge to see if it is out of round or how worn it is though, I will do some asking around at work tommorow and see if anyone has one.




    Piston also doesnt have any major scoring either, It does have some chunks missing like the head does pictured above.

    Here is some measurements i have gotten so far...
    These have just been taken with a cheap harbor freight Digital Caliper http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93293
    Camshaft
    -Right side=17.6mm
    -Left Side=25.6mm
    Specs
    -Right=17.927-17.938mm
    -Left=25.917-25.930
    Service Limits
    -Right=17.90mm
    -Left=25.90mm
    Camshaft Lobe Height
    -Intake/Exhaust=24.3mm and 24.4mm
    Specs
    -24.90mm
    -24.98mm
    Service Limit
    -24.6mm

    Cylinder Warpage
    -0.00mm
    Service Limit
    -0.10mm

    Piston/Piston Ring
    Top Ring
    -0.23mm
    Second Ring
    -0.05mm
    Specs
    Top Ring
    -0.015-0.050mm
    Second Ring
    -0.010-0.0045mm
    Service Limits
    Top
    -0.12mm
    Second
    -0.12mm

    Ring End Gap In Cylinder
    Top
    -Over 0.80mm
    Second
    -I broke the 2nd Ring trying to take it off so we will just say it was outta specs
    Specs
    Top
    -0.15mm-0.35mm
    Second
    -0.15mm-0.35mm

    Piston Skirt Diameter
    -51.8mm
    Specs
    -51.970-51.990mm
    Service Limit
    -51.80mm
    So if my measurements are correct im within specs here but it is getting replaced anyways

    Piston Pin Hole
    -14.8mm
    Specs
    15.002-15.008mm
    Service Limit
    -15.04mm

    Piston Pin O.D.
    14.7mm
    Specs
    14.994-15.000mm
    Service Limit
    14.96mm

    Piston/Piston Pin Clearance
    -0.01mm
    Service Limit
    0.02mm
    So even if my measurements arent dead on it shows im within specs with the clearance between the two of them

    Going by the manauls i uploaded for everyone else in another thread made this a real easy job so far, It has all been Step by Step.

    So i still need to tear the head apart and check the valve guides, Valves, Springs, Etc up there and make a complete list of everything that is going to be necessary to replace. I also need to find someone to do the machine work on it and i dont know if i should just send the complete top end down there and let them go through it all and take all of the measurements or just do the measurements myself and hope for the best.

    So what do you think, Anything i have missed so far or any tips?

    Im thinking about putting a little better performing cam in it, Anybody ever done any porting/polishing on the Intake, Intake port, and the Exhaust Port?
    -1983 Honda ATC110-
    Brand new topend using. Performance cam and some porting/polishing.
    Should be good for another 24 years now!
    -1991 KTM 540-
    Piston turned into grenade inside motor ammit
    -1996 KTM 550-
    Midway through COMPLETE rebuild
    -1997 Honda Cr80-
    Spun crank bearing on trans side ammit

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    I have decided to go this route for the rebuild,
    Rebuild Kit
    Sounds pretty hard to beat for $129 bucks when i have found pistons for $70.

    Probably going to put a bigger cam in it also.
    -1983 Honda ATC110-
    Brand new topend using. Performance cam and some porting/polishing.
    Should be good for another 24 years now!
    -1991 KTM 540-
    Piston turned into grenade inside motor ammit
    -1996 KTM 550-
    Midway through COMPLETE rebuild
    -1997 Honda Cr80-
    Spun crank bearing on trans side ammit

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    Yeah thats probably a good idea. If you have any questions PM me.
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    Sounds good Rennat! I remember those 110's when I was kid. I played on an '82 quite a bit.

    (yes this is DariusKTM) hehe!!

    Man those '83's had totally new styling. OH they were so pretty. Oh and the blue ones...wow! In the showroom they would just shine!


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    Yeah they are a neat little machine.

    Mine isnt pretty, My KTM isnt pretty either but that doesnt really bother me, I would rather have them look "Decent" and enjoy them than have them show worthy.(See Darius's KTM) The Honda needs the plastics replaced, About the only thing left is the seat pan. lol

    Where have you guys boughten cams for these things at before? I have found some on Webcamshafts.com i believe it was but it doesnt list any prices.
    -1983 Honda ATC110-
    Brand new topend using. Performance cam and some porting/polishing.
    Should be good for another 24 years now!
    -1991 KTM 540-
    Piston turned into grenade inside motor ammit
    -1996 KTM 550-
    Midway through COMPLETE rebuild
    -1997 Honda Cr80-
    Spun crank bearing on trans side ammit

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