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  1. #106
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    Yes Billy, I had to cut It In order to make It turn. I sure did'nt want to, but am now sure GLAD I did It.

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
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    hondawasaki is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    Just stumbled on this thread. Amazing work Jason. your fabrication skills are top notch. Looks great. Keep it up!

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    You raked it in more, right?

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    Thanks Hondawasaki.

    Billy, Yes I pulled the rake In. I learned from building this bike that the 05 and up frame would have worked out better, but they are not cheap. I paid 100.00 shipped for the 02 frame. The cheapest 05-08 frame I have seen was around 400.00 + shipping, and It was powder coated Black (yuck).

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

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    Great job Jason..... That is a hot looking machine
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    Here's the latest picture. Just a few finishing touches to finish It up.

    It will get It's first workout this weekend
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails All white 450 3.jpg  

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

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    Jason, throw both your boys on there I wanna see the suspension loaded. :P
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    Exelent job Jason

    You are an inspiration to trike riders all over the globe.

    I have three questions regarding your build;

    1. Now that you have done a few conversions would you say that you have found the best rake angle for an offroad trike, or do you just trial and error it. I assume that you rode it and found that it had too much rake, but what made you decide to take four degrees out of it? If you had gone with the 05 frame, would you have still reduced the rake?

    2. Looks like the TRX450R swinger was made for the CRF450. Did you have to modify the frame/engine/swinger to get it to fit into the bike frame? and

    3. Is the TRX swinger long enough? I find the standard swinger on my KXT could benefit from being longer, It likes to wheelstand a bit too easily for my liking. How do you find the TRX swinger? is it ample length for most riding situations? I seem to remember reading that the standard TRX likes to wheelstand in motocross type racing, (have I read that correctly?) if this is the case surely it would be worse on a trike?

    thanks for your time

    Jase
    My toys 85 KXT250A2, 85 ATC250R, 85 Tri-z 250, 06 LT-R450, 04 YFZ450S, 07 125 typhoon x 3, 06 FPV GT.

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    OZQUAD44 - First, I'm glad that fellow trikers are happy to share my 3 wheeled projects. I really enjoy building them which helps make the final outcome even more enjoyable.

    I don't have a set rake that I just set them to. You need to think ahead alot with these type of build's. I learned the hard way when I built my boys ATC85R that you need to be certain you have your rear ride height / suspension set correctly first. On the 85cc bike I set my rake at the steering head, finish welded It then needed to lower the rear ride height which raked It out more than I wanted. Once you get the rear end set, then you can figure out where your rake needs to be. So, you can't just take rake out of every bike convertion and assume It will be correct. There are lots of variables that need to be correct before you mod the steering head.

    I had to mill the front of the swingarm to fit the CRF frame. I also had to shave the origional CRF subframe boss's down so the swingarm would clear.

    The swingarm could be longer, but I like the stock length. It turns GREAT with the shorter swingarm, but does wheelie easily If the throttle Is just slammed wide open. The good thing Is these engine's pull so good through the entire RPM range that you can keep the bike under control easily once you are familiar with It. I rode this bike on some VERY rough wooped out winding trails at Roger's (Sandpuppi's) ride this past weekend. The final result on this bike Is WOW, I love this thing
    Last edited by Jason Hall; 04-07-2011 at 11:09 PM.

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

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    I have to say this is my favorite conversion to date.

    Would you mind throwing some more photos up, Cheers
    My toys 85 KXT250A2, 85 ATC250R, 85 Tri-z 250, 06 LT-R450, 04 YFZ450S, 07 125 typhoon x 3, 06 FPV GT.

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    this needs to be moved upto the top teir thread i think. definately one bada$$ trike with top quality craftsmanship imo.
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    Jason, Thanks for sharing your conversion with us. It's one nice 3wheeler if not the best conversions I've seen. Do you have any pictures showing how you cut the frame to correct the rake. I would like to know how you kept it straight. What's your opinion on converting a Honda XR650R vs. your 450r. I have one and love it's power but it weights in right at 300lbs as a bike.

    Thanks, Ed

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    I will post up more picture's In the next couple days guy.

    As far as converting the 650, I would be lookin Into It If I had one LOL. Anything is possible, with a little fabbing. I guess It all depends on how bad you want to do It.

    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

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    So why is this not in the top tier section?

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    Here's the pic's I said I would post up. Hope you like them.










    83 ATC 60-R Cr60 converted with Zinger parts.
    83 ATC 70.
    83 Tri zinger
    ATC 85-R Cr85 engine on shortened 86-R frame.
    ATC450AF
    86 310-R Drag racer
    440 snowmobile powered custom built.
    87 Cr 500 Converted to Drag racer

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