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    engine thoughts

    since my dad bought a mazda rx 7, it got me thinking why dont they build a rotary engine for all the new quad and bikes. cause my dads rx is a freaking screamer and if they put them in bikes that would be nucking futs.
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    The engine companies experimented with rotary engines in sleds back in the early 80's/late 70's. I dunno, I remember reading something about them not having great revving power, but lots of torque.
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    i figure they may try rotary again some time. hell they already have quads that are fuel injected. what else is there to try?
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    Quote Originally Posted by storm_impulse View Post
    i figure they may try rotary again some time. hell they already have quads that are fuel injected. what else is there to try?
    Well, rotary and EFI are hugely different. One of them is a relatively simple fuel management modification, the other requires complete retooling of 100% of your engine manufacturing. There are no parts identical in a rotary engine.

    It may also be a patent? I think Mazda patented the rotary engine as their own, and now nobody but them can sell a rotary engine...
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    ya but just imangine if it worked, mazda would make bank
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    I know that some jet ski-s and sleds run a rotax rotary engine. I believe Bombardier has something to do with it.
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    Well, searching Wikipedia for "Wankel engine" told me some interesting stuff.

    Wankel engines are less fuel efficient than piston type engines. There were a few street-type bikes built with Wankel engines, most famous of all the Suzuki RE5 cruiser (500cc), which only got 30 mpg or so, which is about half to 1/3 of what normal cruiser type bikes get.
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    rotary motors make no torque
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWIGIN View Post
    rotary motors make no torque
    maybe not with a standard engine but with a twin turbo setup or a big single turbo setup they make huge torque, thats why the rx-7 is one of the most bought cars for drifting. i like em cause cause they sound like a big ass weed eater
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    mazda can't have patented the rotary...that style of engine has been out since at least the 20s. i'm almost positive the old airplane's had em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRider_AK View Post
    Well, searching Wikipedia for "Wankel engine" told me some interesting stuff.

    Wankel engines are less fuel efficient than piston type engines. There were a few street-type bikes built with Wankel engines, most famous of all the Suzuki RE5 cruiser (500cc), which only got 30 mpg or so, which is about half to 1/3 of what normal cruiser type bikes get.
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    Wankel motors were used in the old 70's Coleman Skiroule snowmachines also....in fact we still have 2-3 of them still beatin around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Z Pilot View Post
    I know that some jet ski-s and sleds run a rotax rotary engine. I believe Bombardier has something to do with it.


    no rotax sled engines use a rotary valve. good solid engines. ive always loved rotax engines. all i pretty much owned were ski doo sleds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Goat View Post
    mazda can't have patented the rotary...that style of engine has been out since at least the 20s. i'm almost positive the old airplane's had em.


    ak is rite. mazda bought rites to the motor along time ago. ill see if i can dig up some information. i remember watching it on modern marvels a while ago. i think it was on the "automobile" or something like that.
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    what about those really really old winde up cars? they sure didnt run off a pistons cause they didnt need gas. had to be rotary powered.
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