Anyone running E-85? looking to see if this has made its way to atv's
Anyone running E-85? looking to see if this has made its way to atv's
What is e-85? Some kind of ethanol fuel?
Current Rides-Soon to be 85 350X, 84 200X
PastRides
86 250SX 85 Tri-Z (yellow) 85 Tri-Z (silver) 86 200x 01 Blaster 99 Blaster 85 ATC250R 86 ATC250ES 84 Tri-Zinger 60 ATC500R Project
Originally Posted by atctim
I prefer to be called a "3 wheeled American" I find the term "Trike People" very offensive and derogatory!SOON MY PRECIOUS!
Anyone running E-85? looking to see if this has made its way to atv's
I've seriously considered running my 250r on it. I think its about 109 110 octane and due to the increased volume they run cooler too. In like Car Craft magazine they say to jet a car 35% richer to run on it but I wonder if that would work for ATCs
What is it? An ethanol based fuel?
Current Rides-Soon to be 85 350X, 84 200X
PastRides
86 250SX 85 Tri-Z (yellow) 85 Tri-Z (silver) 86 200x 01 Blaster 99 Blaster 85 ATC250R 86 ATC250ES 84 Tri-Zinger 60 ATC500R Project
Originally Posted by atctim
I prefer to be called a "3 wheeled American" I find the term "Trike People" very offensive and derogatory!SOON MY PRECIOUS!
its 104-105 octane. it is 85% ethanol 15% gas
it will need 30% more fuel so I guess on a carbureted motor you will need to run a bigger carb. then you can go with like a 12-1 ratio or more
hello
why would it use more fuel?
it is not as efficient as gas
Last edited by Tri-ZNate; 12-16-2007 at 02:17 AM.
hello
is it cheaper then gasoline?
its *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*....it has alot of moisture in it, and i have seen MANY cars need new carbs/injectors because the moisture in the fuel ruins them. it is complete GARBAGE, and i will not run it in ANYTHING i own.
"it has 1/3 of the BTUs of Gas"
Wrong. Ethanol is gasoline and ethyl alcohol (drinking corn). Ethyl has abotu 77,000 BTU/gallon, gasoline is around 109,000 BTU, so the alcohol content has about 75% of the energy of gasoline.
I ran 53% E-85 and 87 octane pump gas in a Chevy S-10, it ran OK when warm, was a b'yatch to start at 30 degrees since it doesnt vaporize as easily as gasoline, and made the truck much better on slippery roads, since the max torque was down-it didnt spin the wheels as easily.
I talked with a certain companies Engineering dept about fuel lines and hoses, contrary to the old wives tales, it has no effect on rubber and steel, but itll eat through *uncoated aluminum*. There was a JSAE (Japanese auto engineering society) that published a report that even a few percent (about 3) ate through aluminum that wasnt oxidised (aluminum in air makes aluminum oxide, which is extremely hard and chemical resitant). They had a fire history with vehicles fueled with oxygenated fuels which had aluminum fuel rails-the alcohol finds cracks in them and dissolves the aluminum. It takes quite a while.
I don't know for shure with the E85, but with strate methenal you run the same size carb with bigger jets. My sand rail run on alky and the onle change I made was a 600cfm holly with 102 primary and 109 secodarys. On gas it runs 72 primary and 84 secondary. Burns a little more full, but makes a bunch more power.
other than the octane factor, why run alcohol in a drag machine? if it has less OOMPH to it than gas, seems like a power decrease to me?